Crimson Triumph

[Literalyte]

I use keyboard and mouse. It's worth getting used to; once you're good enough, you have precision on your side. It's a real advantage.

Here is my video.

My biggest tip would be use of vertical thrusters and more cautious approach to throttle. Try to hug the enemy perpendicularly using backwards throttle and vertical thrust. You can see me do this in the latter part of the video.

another good video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS5vwGEgeTs

gonna try again later.. maybe I just need a huge mouse dragging surface....
will report any useful info later...

In my experience, using relative mouse control (joystick not simulated) is difficult for dogfighting. I recommend using absolute pitch/roll so that you can turn without moving the mouse for the duration.

 

[Aleksej]

Quite simple.

HOTAS+pedals+TrackIR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKNeCKAhIOc

KB/M only:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnw9prPGXzc

 

[booyaa]

Hey Mac

I had the exact same issue, just couldn't beat the scenario. Then i got a joystick (X52 pro) and beat him 2nd try. Been trashing the AI ever since

 

[Cthulhuu]

ok finally killed that crimson SOB, whoohoo ! (after endless failed tries... then watched some video's and changed my tactics)

ok so hints to other newbs... with mouse..
mouse rel pitch/roll inverted.
try not to go head to head with crimson.. except maybe in that first pass.. (he aims better than you, and I suspect has auto-lock lasers)
for that first head to head increase speed so as to make that head to head engagement very short. (did I mention... he aims better than you)
if you have mouse buttons 5/6 map them to transfer power to weapons and to shields... your biggest 2 friends....
if he is on your tail... divert energy to shields... and try reversing thrust to get behind him.
if you are on him... divert energy to weapons.
also use up/down thrusters alot (assuming you are using roll & pitch to aim and follow) to help keep you behind his tail when following... dont just turn. use thrusters to help you get to a point behind him in space.
Map another convenient button to 50% thrust forward, and another to aft.
(better turn rate when at 50% thrust)
If he gets too far away from you.... he will turn and charge you... bad news. (so don't run from him either)
If you are close and he is on you try reversing thrust... this worked quite well to get him in front of me, multiple times.

Took me about 5 tries to do it! after mapping the divert power buttons. and sticking mostly to about 50% thrust forwards or backwards (except when chasing him down on his tail)

hope this helps... !!!

 

[Aleksej]

ok finally killed that crimson SOB, whoohoo ! (after endless failed tries... then watched some video's and changed my tactics)

ok so hints to other newbs... with mouse..
mouse rel pitch/roll inverted.
try not to go head to head with crimson.. except maybe in that first pass.. (he aims better than you, and I suspect has auto-lock lasers)
for that first head to head increase speed so as to make that head to head engagement very short. (did I mention... he aims better than you)
if you have mouse buttons 5/6 map them to transfer power to weapons and to shields... your biggest 2 friends....
if he is on your tail... divert energy to shields... and try reversing thrust to get behind him.
if you are on him... divert energy to weapons.
also use up/down thrusters alot, to help keep you behind his tail when following... dont just turn. use thrusters to help you get to a point behind him in space.
Map another convenient button to 50% thrust forward, and another to aft.
(better turn rate when at 50% thrust)
If he gets too far away from you.... he will turn and charge you... bad news. (so don't run from him either)
If you are close and he is on you try reversing thrust... this worked quite well to get him in front of me, multiple times.

Took me about 5 tries to do it! after mapping the divert power buttons. and sticking mostly to about 50% thrust forwards or backwards (except when chasing him down on his tail)

hope this helps... !!!

I don't agree with your suggestion for the mouse mode as it is very subjective, especially inverted. I am perfectly fine with absolute mouse mode as you shouldn't move the mouse as much as in relative mouse mode. Of course you should be able to manage power fast so controls should be assigned taking this into account.

 

[Cthulhuu]

I don't agree with your suggestion for the mouse mode as it is very subjective, especially inverted. I am perfectly fine with absolute mouse mode as you shouldn't move the mouse as much as in relative mouse mode. Of course you should be able to manage power fast so controls should be assigned taking this into account.

Thanks, agreed, It is subjective on control mode choice, and button assignment location.
I'll revise my suggestions to say, that this mouse mode, and key asignment is what worked for me to beat this mission, and that it felt closest to playing original elite game (for me) (without having a joystick)
The important part is learning to use those features.