Death: lose all exploration data but keep all encoded materials. Why?

[FatFreddysCoat]

I’ve never quite understood that - how come I get to keep all of one but none of the other? Encoded materials aren’t really materials, they’re data packets stored on the ship. So is exploration data, right?

If anything (and no I don’t wanted to give fdev ideas here) you should lose all your materials when your ship is blown up but keep exploration and encoded/scanned data.

 

[askavir]

I think we should lose all BUT only if we could store materials on stations. But since we can't store anything anywhere, I guess we keep materials because losing engineer materials would hurt a hell of a lot more than losing exploration data.

 

[Vandaahl]

One of the things that I don't understand as well. Its illogic and inconsistent in my eyes.

 

[Chorda]

The SRV apparently also has a built-in refinery that can teleport mats to your ship's hold. I'd love for these discrepanceis to be smoothed over in later updates but hey, it's just a game.

 

[Factabulous]

They could get rid of all your issues if they got rid of the bigger issue of - you can die - and then resurrect. That's not realistic - you should obviously have to restart from scratch eh OP

 

[Saool]

They could get rid of all your issues if they got rid of the bigger issue of - you can die - and then resurrect. That's not realistic - you should obviously have to restart from scratch eh OP

Teorge.

 

[Morbad]

Gameplay balance.

I'd prefer everything to make sense, but that's not likely to happen.

 

[M0rty]

obviously iCloud is bugged. Get on it Apple....

 

[Mohrgan]

For the same reason you don't loose Credits.

 

[DragonIV]

FD pretty much needs to create a reference card on what you lose and what you don't upon kaboom.

Onboard SLF pilot: dead
Credits: preserved
Navigation data: lost
Materials: preserved
Ship and outfitting: depends on your bank balance
Missions: depends on mission terms
Cargo: lost
Ranks/progress: preserved

What am I missing? See why a reference card is needed?

 

[Jukelo]

Because nobody at Frontier has yet tried to fix all the consistency problems caused by the vision shift of mid 2015.

 

[Lightspeed]

Because nobody at Frontier has yet tried to fix all the consistency problems caused by the vision shift of mid 2015.

This is the truth .... along with "teleprescence"

Edit - something odd happened to the quote, but as it happens, the right parts were selected !

 

[fu9ar]

The Sandro Effect, coming to a holoscreen near you.

 

[govny]

there is nothing to understand, it's a game.

 

[VR SenseiMatty]

losing engineer materials would hurt a hell of a lot more than losing exploration data.

 

[VR SenseiMatty]

For the same reason you don't loose Credits.

Except the Rebuy costs of course... yeah on a Cobra IV it's negligible, on an A-Rated Corvette.... See MEME above.... ^^

 

[askavir]

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Oh but I sure do. Getting materials is most of the time a pain in the rear. Exploration data is just credits, and credits are very easy to replace.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Why not?

 

[DragonIV]

Oh but I sure do. Getting materials is most of the time a pain in the rear. Exploration data is just credits, and credits are very easy to replace.

Not only does navigation data payments go out the door, but don't the actual scans go too? So you gotta rescan them if, for example, you were scouting potential mining locations. This point I'm not sure about (back to the reference card!).

 

[Crimson Kaim]

If you want a real answer: Because ED used to be a difficult game where ship destruction was actually something really bad and could throw you back for weeks, if not months of playtime. Later, ED got softer and more beginner friendly, making it easy to overcome ship destruction. At that time engineers and materials have been added and due to the soft nature of Elite now, materials can not be lost.

if you want my personal answer. Because screw you and git gud btw.