"Development Level >>"? Figuring out what all these numbers do.

tomalus

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Did anyone actually try this:

Den86 said:


Hello everyone, I managed to start the refinery, Coriolis was built on Thursday(10th April), I built 1 refinery on the planet, and it didn’t work for me, then I built 1-agriculture, and hurray, my refinery started working, but now I only have metals on the market.
 

hutandrei

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Something weird is going on, I've been destroyed 3 times in the last 30 minutes, on the landing pad of the orbital construction site.
NPCs appear, they give like 10 messages all at once, and the start shooting - even when I'm docked unloading stuff. And they are OP, like 1 shot, and I'm dead.
 

Mainsil

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hutandrei said:
Something weird is going on, I've been destroyed 3 times in the last 30 minutes, on the landing pad of the orbital construction site.
NPCs appear, they give like 10 messages all at once, and the start shooting - even when I'm docked unloading stuff. And they are OP, like 1 shot, and I'm dead.
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There are at least four issue tracker entries for this, the most popular one I found is here: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/74616

It seems to have started with last weeks patch, when anarchy group pirates would start ambushing at construction sites. In my case the pirates and the construction site both belonged to the same Anarchy minor faction (to which I am allied). Sometimes the station would agro on me while I was sitting at the pad, sometimes not. When the station agroes on me, the work around is to log out and back in; upon return the station resets and is no longer agroed. TLDR check agro status of station and relog if it is red.

My current theory is that my point defense turret sometimes hits the construction site instead of the pirate missile, but that is just conjecture.

The broader workaround that has worked for me so far has been to spam heat sinks when other ships are nearby. This delays the time it takes for the pirates to notice and begin their scans so I am frequently on the pad before they open fire. When that fails just a simple relog clears the station agro.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
hutandrei said:
Something weird is going on, I've been destroyed 3 times in the last 30 minutes, on the landing pad of the orbital construction site.
NPCs appear, they give like 10 messages all at once, and the start shooting - even when I'm docked unloading stuff. And they are OP, like 1 shot, and I'm dead.
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That's the bug of the station/platform attacking you, instead of it attacking the NPCs.

See here:
Frankymole said:
No, no bounties or anything like that. Totally clean and allied with the faction.

Latest of many, many landings had someone (the platform) launching multiple missiles "incoming missile" warnings appeared and I couldn't see any ships on the contacts panel - that's new!

Here is the Steam thread describing the bug, with some ideas about the triggers (but no conclusions as there seem to be at least two triggers): https://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/0/600775381612502714/

Apologies if this is the wrong thread to discuss this bug, I couldn't find a more appropriate one when searching this fourm, admins please move if it should be somewhere else in the forum.
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Frankymole

Frankymole
Mainsil said:
The broader workaround that has worked for me so far has been to spam heat sinks when other ships are nearby. This delays the time it takes for the pirates to notice and begin their scans so I am frequently on the pad before they open fire. When that fails just a simple relog clears the station agro.
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The pirates still attack even when I'm already landed on the pad. The platform then joins in.

I don't have Point Defense and the bug still occurs.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
No idea about the pirates, there isn't time to identify them before the station/platform blasts me to bits as a "criminal" for being attacked. What do you mean by "which minor faction are you aligned to"? I don't think I'm aligned to any. I'm allied to several factions in the system, one of whom controls the system.

Interestingly, it seems to have "cured" itself when I decided to retain some cargo as I took off from the platform (albeit only 1 unit) and got scanned, then reapplied for permission and landed: (or maybe it was just not worth his time for 1 unit of cargo)

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Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
Frankymole said:
No idea about the pirates, there isn't time to identify them before the station/platform blasts me to bits as a "criminal" for being attacked. What do you mean by "which minor faction are you aligned to"? I don't think I'm aligned to any. I'm allied to several factions in the system, one of whom controls the system.

Interestingly, it seems to have "cured" itself when I decided to retain some cargo as I took off from the platform (albeit only 1 unit) and got scanned, then reapplied for permission and landed: (or maybe it was just not worth his time for 1 unit of cargo)

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Maybe I can haul for you. Low combat rating here (clean save last year).
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Ralph Vargr said:
Maybe I can haul for you. Low combat rating here (clean save last year).
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Well, I'd be happy to hire someone as a combat escort :) Or you can do the freighting and I'll be the escort.

Hopefully when I finish this orbital (it's a security station) it will provide enough system security to see off the pirates! At least the ones doing ambushes at construction sites.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
And now it's gone spam-tastic, message after message in a constant stream
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Irritatingly, the security station is shown in the Nav panel as "scientific installation", but presumably it still boosts security, right?
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