Development Update 4 - September

If console launch relies on a stable pc release, then it's not distracting from anything at all - they're both just different ways of asking the same question.

We're all asking the same thing, in different ways.
Nah - you're complaining you can't get an appointment with the nurse to get your boil lanced - we're complaining to the government that they need to get a grip on the global pandemic ;)
 
I wholeheartedly agree. We should not be cheering or even accepting new content being added to EDO until the performance issues have been satisfactorily resolved.

At that point the console ports and any new content can be started and then enjoyed by all.

- I am frustrated that the performance optimisations are taking so long but I understand the position wrt that and the console ports.

- I am unhappy that EDO on PC is being expanded on before the above has first been fixed.

The fact that so many PC folks can’t understand the difference is quite astonishing. And you talk of shrubberies …
I think it's fantastic that while devs are working hard on Odyssey to optimise, resolve performance issues and bugs, that FDev also allocate further devs to implement new content simultaneously.

If that wasn't the case, CMDRs would be complaining that Odyssey was merely in maintenance mode.

Ah well. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
I think it's fantastic that while devs are working hard on Odyssey to optimise, resolve performance issues and bugs, that FDev also allocate further devs to implement new content simultaneously.

If that wasn't the case, CMDRs would be complaining that Odyssey was merely in maintenance mode.

Ah well. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The hue and cry from the PC community having to wait a year+ for new content would be justified.

As I said before Consoles don't have the expansion PC players do and Frontier clearly calculated that the priority is with them first potatoes second.
 
Nah - you're complaining you can't get an appointment with the nurse to get your boil lanced - we're complaining to the government that they need to get a grip on the global pandemic ;)

All are expressing their personal priorities on a public forum.

The console issue is further down the road than PC optimisation, it is a bigger part of the big picture than 'only' PC optimisation because as several have already highlighted, optimisation is a step towards console release.
 
Also, can we expect a follow-up on these questions (or some small attention here) as sally does, or she's the only one dealing with the community around here nowadays? Don't think she alone can(or should) handle hundreds of notifications daily when there's more of you guys around =)
wouldn't be great if we had a follow up to these posts, so pc and console players wouldn't be deglatiating by speculations for the past 10 pages?
so much for open communication eh

also i see console players in denial, you have the right to complain and all(specially because being quiet means stuff is fine, hence they don't have to do anything) but
1: odyssey ain't even close to optimized on pc
2: if can't run on a 3090 imagine on potato old consoles
3: fdev will be as silent bout it as they are about powerplay, the difference is they told us all console is on hold till they feel odyssey is ok, which is way more than they said about PP.
4: "what is optimized on their view?" we'll have to wait and see.

also for those saying "horizons is abandoned on console" if that's the case, it is also abandoned on PC (not everyone is crazy enough to purchase odyssey at the current state, even on PC)
 
wouldn't be great if we had a follow up to these posts, so pc and console players wouldn't be deglatiating by speculations for the past 10 pages?
so much for open communication eh

also i see console players in denial, you have the right to complain and all(specially because being quiet means stuff is fine, hence they don't have to do anything) but
1: odyssey ain't even close to optimized on pc
2: if can't run on a 3090 imagine on potato old consoles
3: fdev will be as silent bout it as they are about powerplay, the difference is they told us all console is on hold till they feel odyssey is ok, which is way more than they said about PP.
4: "what is optimized on their view?" we'll have to wait and see.

also for those saying "horizons is abandoned on console" if that's the case, it is also abandoned on PC (not everyone is crazy enough to purchase odyssey at the current state, even on PC)

Conversely, reports are that it tanks on a 3090 but runs fine on a 1070, for example.

So at what point do they consider it 'console ready' is anyone's guess.
 
Well, yes, PC player's needs are more important: they're left holding a broken product for which they (we, since I am one) have paid. Console players have not paid for Odyssey and thus are not left waiting for something for which they've paid. If they had paid, it would be a very very different story.

I've also bought Odyssey. I don't think that the players platform choice dictates how important they are.

Trying to turn this into a console Vs PC discussion seems to be the modus operandi of many here, and that is detracting from the real discussion unfortunately.
 
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Well, yes, PC player's needs are more important: they're left holding a broken product for which they (we, since I am one) have paid. Console players have not paid for Odyssey and thus are not left waiting for something for which they've paid. If they had paid, it would be a very very different story.

PC optimisation is more urgent, not necessarily more important. FDev already have the money from those PC players that bought the Odd DLC, they have potential future revenue in the anticipated console release.
 
wouldn't be great if we had a follow up to these posts, so pc and console players wouldn't be deglatiating by speculations for the past 10 pages?
so much for open communication eh

also i see console players in denial, you have the right to complain and all(specially because being quiet means stuff is fine, hence they don't have to do anything) but
1: odyssey ain't even close to optimized on pc
2: if can't run on a 3090 imagine on potato old consoles
3: fdev will be as silent bout it as they are about powerplay, the difference is they told us all console is on hold till they feel odyssey is ok, which is way more than they said about PP.
4: "what is optimized on their view?" we'll have to wait and see.

also for those saying "horizons is abandoned on console" if that's the case, it is also abandoned on PC (not everyone is crazy enough to purchase odyssey at the current state, even on PC)
If I said Horizons, it was a mistype, I mean Odyssey is abandoned on console. But with development moving towards Odyssey, there will be little more than bug fixes for Horizons. There will be no new content, that's for Odyssey, so Horizons is around for as long as FDEV feels like supporting it. Right now they're going to be all over it because Odyssey is not in a state where they can make money. Once they get Odyssey good enough they will drop support for Horizons, that's only reasonable. So, in that sense Horizons will be abandoned also, but yeah, not anytime soon.
 
Conversely, reports are that it tanks on a 3090 but runs fine on a 1070, for example.
Sort of fine (1080, though). Until things break and then it tanks. Sometimes it will fix itself after some fiddling (maps, sc jump, hs jump), other times it takes a restart.
And then I have to wait for the game to sort itself out again after loading (first several minutes are a mysery of several SPF (no typo)).
However, when things are good... I get more than 60 fps in a station (depending on where I look).
When things are bad... 8 fps.
 
If I said Horizons, it was a mistype, I mean Odyssey is abandoned on console. But with development moving towards Odyssey, there will be little more than bug fixes for Horizons. There will be no new content, that's for Odyssey, so Horizons is around for as long as FDEV feels like supporting it. Right now they're going to be all over it because Odyssey is not in a state where they can make money. Once they get Odyssey good enough they will drop support for Horizons, that's only reasonable. So, in that sense Horizons will be abandoned also, but yeah, not anytime soon.
the so called "pairity update" for horizons is due to happen this year. and i wish it wasn't, seeing what they did with ONE SMALL PATCH breaking a lot of stuff in horizons, i wonder what will they do with the pairity update.
And odyssey can't be abandoned on console, cause it ain't there, but the release is indeed "abandoned" untill they get it right on PC.
 
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