I like that idea.
Dino sizes won't be fixed
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I like that idea.
I'm quite annoyed at Frontier in that they refuse to rescale their Dinosaurs (I don't remotely buy the story that it can't be done), but refunding a game just because two of the animals within it are slightly smaller than they should be? Seems a bit excessive...
I've said before, but to restate the [potential] explanation; I think it's safe to say that Universal make all the big decisions with this game, and quite simply, I think they've said [to Frontier] that they can include the Giga & Spino, but they [Universal] want the T-Rex (and by extension, the I-Rex) to be the bigger and badder Dinosaurs on the game, and Frontier can do nothing except comply.
I really do think it's that simple - it's the only conclusion that remotely makes any sense to me, but Frontier (for reasons unknown) can't simply tell us that. It really isn't that hard to rescale a Dinosaur, despite what we've been told. Universal more likely have just stated which Dinosaur(s) they wish to rule our parks, and so it's set in stone that the Giga & Spino are forever going to be smaller that the Jurassic King (or Queen, cause they're all female) that is the T-Rex.
agree with this one. some matters were discussed behind closed doors and can't be revealed to the public. the Trex is their poster child after all, hehe. gotta make her front and center.. sad tho the more i think about this.. well might as well enjoy the game we have for now
hoping for the bestDinosaur models can be changed, they just don't want too (or aren't allowed too). Island size change is a whole different ballgame to fixing a few bugs however. Respectfully, I don't think you have the slightest understanding of game development if you think they're the same.
A game bug can be something as simple as a missing texture, or animation, whereas the islands themselves are the groundwork (I suppose?); if someone has already created a park, you can't just stretch it!
How about some Targ's instead of Goats? [haha]
Apparently, if Frontier/Universal have their way, we'd have to avoid placing them in our parks for the entire duration of the games existence. I think, at least as far as immersion goes, it'll come down (simply) to choosing which (of the three) Carnivores we have on our islands; if we have a T-Rex, then forego the Giga and/or Spino (cause they'll look too small) but on a different island, if we don't have a T-Rex, we can instead have a Giga or Spino. It's the only compromise us players have left. If the Dinosaurs are kept separate, their inaccurate scaling isn't as obvious.
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Here's to hoping the modders are making progress... since it seems this is another problem that can only be fixed by the fans...
"We were very fortunate to be able to use official source materials as guidance for our models and make sure the dinosaurs fairly represent their movie equals but we understand that those movie models might not always be accurate to their real-life sizes" - Bo said
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Devs said they use officual source materials. But it isn't true. We all know that Inodominus in film is not full grown and even that it still bigger than Rexy (13,4m)
And here is what 14m T-rex compare to 15.5m Indominus Rex. It's look like T-rex is a bit smaller but bulkier. With this size, I think T-rex is the biggest carnnivores in JWE
The fact that the Spinosaurus in JP3 is 13,3m. And if it was that size, it is as big as Rexy (but in JWE even a 15m Spino looks smaller than T-rex).
So, we have a Gozilla T-rex, Mini Giganotosaurus, and devs don't fix this mistake because they think they make them correct like movie (I don't think so and I'm dissapointed with that respond)
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Devs said they use officual source materials. But it isn't true. We all know that Inodominus in film is not full grown and even that it still bigger than Rexy (13,4m)
And here is what 14m T-rex compare to 15.5m Indominus Rex. It's look like T-rex is a bit smaller but bulkier. With this size, I think T-rex is the biggest carnnivores in JWE
The fact that the Spinosaurus in JP3 is 13,3m. And if it was that size, it is as big as Rexy (but in JWE even a 15m Spino looks smaller than T-rex).
So, we have a Gozilla T-rex, Mini Giganotosaurus, and devs don't fix this mistake because they think they make them correct like movie (I don't think so and I'm dissapointed with that respond)
This is a pretty poor excuse. Just use the T Rex skeleton and scale the meshes. We're only talking about a slight increase here, and only a couple dinos, not a whole new scale of dino. It's rather straight forward unless you're using rigs from the 90's. It's easy enough a creative modder could likely do it with a light explanation of how the models are handled in the game.
It's not quite that simple. All dinos in this game seem to have animation targeting between each other, which means changing one means changing all. However, since none of the Giga animations are properly targeted and he's always eating air and sticking his head through stuff, all of this needs to be retargeted anyway. This makes me worried they're not even going to bother fixing any animations at all since fixing animations for his current size is the same amount of work as fixing them for a resized version.
That makes sense as the velociraptors were scaled up for the movies from being about two feet tall (but with a cool name).
YES! Thank you for noticing this! The actual model's characteristics (neck and arms specifically) ruin the appearance of the thing much more than the size.
Frontier is really screwing the pooch with this.
Just count me in with those calling on this statement.
As I said in my first post; Frontier, if you won't fix your game, let us fix it.
Just count me in with those calling on this statement.
As I said in my first post; Frontier, if you won't fix your game, let us fix it.
I'm gonna second that I'm pretty sure this is the issue.
There's very little benefit because while Frontier will receive outside attention from casual players and gaming press for introducing new elements, they rarely pay any serious attention to patch updates. Paying someone to spend possibly weeks altering existing animations isn't going to receive any attention or analysis except from a handful of devoted players - and I'd be among the first to thank them! It's not terribly realistic, I'm sad to say.
It's not simply a matter of updating a model because animations don't always scale the same with a model and with the model's skeleton, etc. -- if it was that easy, Frontier would've done it already.
Why not put the model for the giga with the allo model? The allo in this game is already bigger than the giga and I think if the giga share the same model and animation as the allo, it could solve the giga size maybe. As for the I-rex and spino, they both need a different model and animation if the size are to be changed. I don't know much about computer programming, but this is what I think frontier should do to solve the size complaints.
No it's not, why do people keep saying this? Anyone who's actually put these 2 together in the same pen would know that it's not true at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBFl_zLOWz4
They're both around the same length, but the Giga is clearly taller and a lot bulkier. Yes it's obviously still too small compared to the T-rex, but it's like some of you are purposely exaggerating how small the Giga is by making it out to be a complete dwarf to try to get Frontier to fix the size issue. In reality, take out the T-rex, the Spino and the Indominous, the Giga would be the biggest carnivore in the game.
I am not complaining on the size. I am just only making a suggestion for some people who do not enjoy the size of the giga. Personally, it bugged me for a bit. But I got use to it
Yes, I agree with you. In real life, dinosaurs could not pronate their arms. There were only a very few exceptions. I wish Jurassic Park took a note of this
and didn't make all the bipedal dinosaurs pronate. It looks more natural and better if they didn't pronate.... (at least give us a option to disable pronating frontier)
The other somewhat annoying inaccuracy with JP dinosaurs is that they are all shrink wrapped but nobody will probably fix that. In real life, if they were shrink
wrapped, that would be a sign that they are starving and close to death. Also if dinosaurs were pronating in real life, it would be a sign that their wrist was broken.
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Allo is taller than Giga in the game. You can check it in their stats from the info slot:
-Allo: 3'6 metres tall, 12 long
-Giga: 3'2 metres tall, 12 long
Giga is more heavy but Allo is taller.
Allo is the most powerfull carnivore. It also defeats T-Rex It must be nerf.
Did you watch the video that I linked? The game's database may describe the Allosaurus as being taller, but the actual in-game Giga model is clearly taller than the Allosaurus model, at least from the hip. I do agree that the Allosaurus needs a nerf though.
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