Number 2 will be really helpful with my "forum member" exhibit, I hope it comes with some enrichment like laptops pre-loaded with Planet Zoo
DLC 19 Speculation
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Endangered Great Britain Animal Pack
- Red Squirrel (H)
- European Hare (H)
- Scottish Wild Cat (H)
- Eurasian Otter (H)
- Exmoor Pony (H)
- Shetland Goose (H)
- Shetland Duck (H)
- Common Adder (E)
Also This Might Explain Some Of The Weird Choices In Barnyard.
If i should be 100% fair with this, i should include the guanaco as well instead of the giant armadillo.
Hah, nah. You're right! I wasn't thinking... We don't have them. So yeah. Just swap that out for the puffin.
Scarlet Macaw + Ruby-Throated Hummingbird
Scarlet Macaw + Hyacinth Macaw + African Grey Parrot
I think your list is a fantastic choice, but I would make a couple of changes. Instead of the Brazilian tapir, I would include the Guanaco or the Vicuña, since the game already has a South American tapir, while the only similar species to these camelids is the llama, which is domesticated and not wild. I would also replace the Giant Armadillo with the White-tailed Deer, as it would represent a South American deer species, which we don’t have in the game yet. Plus, the game already includes an armadillo species. But overall, your selection is excellent!
Baird's tapirs aren't primarily found in South America; they don't live any further South than Colombia
You're absolutely right! My reasoning is based on making a list for the South American continent as a whole, rather than for a specific country or region. Since the game already has the Baird’s tapir, which is at least partially found in South America, I’d personally prefer to include a new type of animal, like the guanaco or the vicuña, rather than adding another tapir.
The thing is that the Baid's tapir just far more of a North American animal than it is South America. It's easier to argue that greater flamingos are an Asian species than it is to say Baird's tapirs are a South America species.
I see your point! I understand that the Baird’s tapir is more commonly associated with Central America and even North America than with South America. My reasoning is that, since its range does extend into South America, even if only slightly, I’d prefer to prioritize animals that better represent the continent as a whole, like the guanaco or the vicuña, instead of adding another tapir species.
How is the brazilian tapir another tapir but the guanaco or vicuna are a new type of animal when we already have the llama and alpaca?
I guess they don't count because they're domesticated (though llamas already look guanaco-like by default
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You're right that both the llama and the alpaca are already in the game, but my argument is that the llama is a domesticated species, while the guanaco and the vicuña are their wild relatives. The difference is that, while we already have a South American tapir in the game, the Brazilian tapir and the Baird’s tapir represent different species with distinct geographic ranges, while the guanaco and the vicuña are unique species that haven’t been represented yet in the game. That’s why I think it would be a good idea to include them.
Not trying to dogpile, I get the argument you are making. But outside of being domestic animals, the llama and alpaca have similar ranges, lifestyle, and you could build similar habitats for both.
I’m not saying the vicuña or guanaco dont have a place in game, but for most people the llama and alpaca will take those roles just fine.
I guess a similar example would be if we get a domestic turkey in game, and then get a wild turkey in game. Both have similar ranges and roles, and can borderline be swapped. However one is domestic and one is wild. While the people who care will notice the difference, I think most players won’t care too much.
Hi. Southamerican here. A couple of things about my list...
1. I'm from Argentina. The idea was to make a list for my country not South America as a whole and Baird's tapir don't live in my country. Brazilian tapir do and they are far more relevant than the vicuña for instance that is more common in Peru.
2. We have llamas, so two camelids would indeed feel redundant to me but guanacos are an important animal here as well, i just prioritize having an actual local tapir and not an stand in (that for me doesn't even replaces the Brazilian tapir, they look nothing alike and they don't live in the same areas). If i would have to change anything for the guanaco it would be the armadillo but i rather get something different from what we already have.
3. If i where to ask for a SA deer i would pick huemul, pampas, marsh or pudu. All of them much more unique, with a greater conservation value, all of them present in my country. The WTD is a very boring basic animal to me and tbh i've never seen one around here, not even in zoos. Is mor important to north american players than to us southamericans i believe.
1. I'm from Argentina. The idea was to make a list for my country not South America as a whole and Baird's tapir don't live in my country. Brazilian tapir do and they are far more relevant than the vicuña for instance that is more common in Peru.
2. We have llamas, so two camelids would indeed feel redundant to me but guanacos are an important animal here as well, i just prioritize having an actual local tapir and not an stand in (that for me doesn't even replaces the Brazilian tapir, they look nothing alike and they don't live in the same areas). If i would have to change anything for the guanaco it would be the armadillo but i rather get something different from what we already have.
3. If i where to ask for a SA deer i would pick huemul, pampas, marsh or pudu. All of them much more unique, with a greater conservation value, all of them present in my country. The WTD is a very boring basic animal to me and tbh i've never seen one around here, not even in zoos. Is mor important to north american players than to us southamericans i believe.
I understand what you're saying, and it's true that both the llama and the alpaca have similar ranges and lifestyles, making it easier to create similar habitats for both. However, my point is that while these two species are similar, the difference between the guanacos and the vicuñas compared to the llamas and the alpacas is that the former are wild species with a different role in the ecosystem, while the latter are domesticated. I think for players who are looking for a more complete representation of South American wildlife, having wild species like the guanaco or the vicuña would be a nice addition. That said, I understand that for many players, the llama and the alpaca can cover that role just fine.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I understand that you're looking to represent your country, Argentina, and I really appreciate the approach you've taken with your list. Regarding the Brazilian tapir, I understand that it is more relevant for you since it is found in Argentina, and I agree that the guanaco is also an important animal. However, my suggestion to include the guanaco or the vicuña is more based on a continent-wide approach for South America, although I understand it might not be as necessary in Argentina since you already have the llama.
As for the white-tailed deer, I understand that your preference is to include more representative species with higher conservation value like the huemul, pudú, or pampa deer, which are also excellent options. I have no objection to that, and it's interesting to see the diversity of species we could include to better reflect South American wildlife.
Thanks for the conversation, and I truly appreciate your input in helping me understand the local fauna better.
Amazon's probably the best given its biodiversity