DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)

I totally agree that we are lacking temperate foliage / decor variety. My forests all look so samey, whether they're set in NA, Europe or Asia and that shouldn't be the case. More forest floor cover - wild bluebells, fallen logs, ferns and small mushrooms would be really good.

Tropical/rainforest foliage is looking pretty good now.

Animals-wise though, whenever I post a possible roster, it is purely based on what I want, not what I think is most likely (WTH do I know?!) or what the game "needs" (I'm not much interested in that kind of reasoning unless it's a really obvious gap like monkeys).
the fact that we have one mushroom (that isnt supposed to be super fake looking) makes decorating forest floors so hard
 
But arent those example pretty much in the same boat as the rainforest example?
Yeah but the argument wasn't that similar packs can't work, Oceania and Australia are a perfect example; you just have to make sure that the visual language is different enough.

An Asia pack that heavily leans into the East Asian Architecture isn't something we've had so far and is something you can easily create a distinct visual language for. A safari pack that heavily leans into the safari aesthetic isn't something we've had so far (I'm talking safari hats etc.), etc. Yes those two examples have a base game theme; but with the new approach of animal pack + scenery that's a big bonus because then they just build on the existing stuff and don't have to make tons of scenery.

With Rainforest I just see less room to create something that is visually distinct, I'm not convinced on the different vibe really. Then I'd say it's just easier to go for a general Forest pack and lean more into the temperate aesthetic for your visual language. But hey, that's my personal opinion though, I understand that people disagree haha.

As for the mountain pack. Its not that i think that there are no viable animals or that you couldnt make an interesting pack. Just that i dont really see it happening with stuff like spec bear, takin, wolverine, markhor, pallas cat and baboon already added over the last couple packs, as those were pretty much the reason why mountains was such a requested theme.
Eh, I'm going to be honest here and say that that last part is probably not how Frontier sees it. 😅 I know that a bunch of people, including myself, were really looking forward to a Desert pack at one point and then Arid came along and it was exactly the opposite of what we wanted to see from a pack like that. Mountains can be exactly like that.

Regardless, there's a bigger world outside the forums here, I wouldn't rule out a Mountain pack at this point because here on the forums a few people had set their senses on those animals for the pack and they came in different packs.

I agree actually. I kind of find it a little difficult to make unique temperate forests in the game. I found that surprising especially because we do have options but idk it felt off? More options would be great
Oh I can pinpoint that easily. We severely lack temperate trees with long trunks and high canopies. The vast majority of temperate trees in the game have a 1/3 visible trunk and 2/3 canopy ratio; but very little temperate trees that are the opposite like for instance the scots pine or the rainbow eucalyptus are. Without those, you're stuck with big canopy trees that take a lot of space and don't allow you to make large forestscapes.
 
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Yeah but the argument wasn't that similar packs can't work, Oceania and Australia are a perfect example; you just have to make sure that the visual language is different enough.

An Asia pack that heavily leans into the East Asian Architecture isn't something we've had so far and is something you can easily create a distinct visual language for. A safari pack that heavily leans into the safari aesthetic isn't something we've had so far (I'm talking safari hats etc.), etc. Yes those two examples have a base game theme; but with the new approach of animal pack + scenery that's a big bonus because then they just build on the existing stuff and don't have to make tons of scenery.

With Rainforest I just see less room to create something that is visually distinct, I'm not convinced on the different vibe really. Then I'd say it's just easier to go for a general Forest pack and lean more into the temperate aesthetic for your visual language. But hey, that's my personal opinion though, I understand that people disagree haha.


Eh, I'm going to be honest here and say that that last part is probably not how Frontier sees it. 😅 I know that a bunch of people, including myself, were really looking forward to a Desert pack at one point and then Arid came along and it was exactly the opposite of what we wanted to see from a pack like that. Mountains can be exactly like that.

Regardless, there's a bigger world outside the forums here, I wouldn't rule out a Mountain pack at this point because here on the forums a few people had set their senses on those animals for the pack and they came in different packs.


Oh I can pinpoint that easily. We severely lack temperate trees with long trunks and high canopies. The vast majority of temperate trees in the game have a 1/3 visible trunk and 2/3 canopy ratio; but very little temperate trees that are the opposite like for instance the scots pine or the rainbow eucalyptus are. Without those, you're stuck with big canopy trees that take a lot of space and don't allow you to make large forestscapes.
Yea they all feel like small in game. We need bigger trees to give that forest scape feel
 
I totally agree that we are lacking temperate foliage / decor variety. My forests all look so samey, whether they're set in NA, Europe or Asia and that shouldn't be the case. More forest floor cover - wild bluebells, fallen logs, ferns and small mushrooms would be really good.
I cosign all of this. Pacific Northwest/Native American inspired and horizontal wood plank and log wall building sets would be spectacular. Build the whole theme of the pack around that.

American Black Bear
Elk
Sea Otter
Walrus
Harbor Seal
California Brown Pelican
Canadian Goose
WTE - Northern Flying Squirrel
 
can't wait to get a forest/temperate pack and still get no new eucalypts

frontier please it's been 5 years since we got one I don't want to spam more stringybarks please have mercy
All I want is a less blinding white gum tree like the ghost gum is fun but give me a more dirty looking blue gum or river gum.
I also really want some more proteacea as well like banskias and grevillias.
 
Shrublands next??? I'm trying to think of a theme we can get the coati and mara in that won't feel redundant
 
Introducing the Fan Favourites Animal Pack! We've totally been listening to everyone about what they want and here's what we have to show for it!
  • Mugger Crocodile
  • Tufted Capuchin
  • Red Wolf
  • Caspian Tiger
  • South African Lion
  • Gobi Bear
  • Emperor Penguin
  • Horizontal log wall pieces
  • Career Scenario: help Myers get a wife
 
The incoming Serval, Black Jackal, and Bat-eared fox:

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I understand your thoughts, but I think, the more animals we get, the better. I am also not a fan from the Americas Pack, but maybe the next one, whatever it will be, is way better? As long as the animals are good in quality they can do DLCs for ever, for me-
Eh id prefer them just stopping here and start to work on PZ2 instead of cash cowing this game with lackluster packs and updates that (imo) just aint worthwhile anymore.
Waiting 6 months and getting like 1 interesting animals and a pile of "firmly in the mod terretory" apperently without any free update to speak ok? yeah not for me
 
Here’s to hoping there’s a dlc in June July like prior to 2024
Help me come up with another title here. I honestly thought it was gonna he called New world animals pack and believed the next would be the old world animals dlc
If it is animals from old world confinements, what would be a good name?
After the reveal, with ocelots checked off I think the Servral would be a good wrap up for cats.
Surprised to get 2 canids but Il take them all, people aren’t gonna be happy about more canids but the golden jackal and the tanuki would nicely wrap canids up.
New world monkeys at this rate are never gonna feel complete.
Glad the ratities are wrapped up.

I am in the hopes that the next old world dlc will get us some good candidates but I am hoping a 3rd dlc will be the big wrap up.
If it’s a bigger dlc with say 14 animals then I say give us the missing animals
1. ABB
2. Elk
NA is done
3. Coati
4. Mara
SA birds and monkeys unfortunatly won’t be complete
The rest of the animals from the rest of the world
 
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