An announcement is never late! It arrives precisely when it means to.
DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)
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An announcement is never late! It arrives precisely when it means to.Why is it "not worth speculating"? What could delay an announcement at all?
Also, why do you think end of June is more likely than tomorrow?
Do you mean "in a week or so", or "after the stream"?
Iām just so confused about the Bornean Elephant. What an odd choice, considering the main complaint about the Indian Elephant is that itās too SMALL. To add the Pygmy Elephant is like rubbing salt in a wound.
The only way Iāll be happy with the Bornean Elephant is if they resize and remodel the original Indian Elephant. Otherwise, this is an utter slap in the face.
The only way Iāll be happy with the Bornean Elephant is if they resize and remodel the original Indian Elephant. Otherwise, this is an utter slap in the face.
Because there's so many different reasons: Staff needing to be out-of-office unexpectedly or pulled onto separate projects. The trailer accidentally getting deleted. Discovering a bug that will need to be fixed (and might take longer than a week).
There are many different reasons a delay could happen... None of which we would ever know about. So there's no sense in speculating.
There's other reasons an announcement might be planned for later (such as announcing a new game or another DLC for another game) and that's worth noting but that's not really a delay.
Announcements tend to happen on Monday or Tuesday. Tomorrow is possible, obviously, but next week just feels more likely to me at this point. Just a gut feeling, really. But it would almost definitely be before the stream so they can showcase the trailer, etc.
I can definitely see that happen. We also got the Bactrian camel resized after receiving the Przewalski's horse.
Honestly, I still think the Bornean elephant is a bad pick, and that's not something I easily admit about Frontier's choices. While there have been many species I didn't need, I can still argue why they'd add something like, say, the coyote. I've never had an issue with clones either, as we've always received them and most still add value. Either because they are better alternatives to what was there (blue wildebeest, spectacled caiman), are commonly kept in zoos (coyote), have an important conservation story (scimitar-horned oryx, wisent) or are often kept in the same zoo alongside their doppelgƤnger (American flamingo, all the penguins). But I really don't see much added value for the Bornean dwarf elephant. I don't think there is any zoo that keeps different subspecies of Asian elephant, and I'm sure there were other large animals from the region that aren't much harder to make. Even other 'clones' like the Asian lion were more in-demand.
I hope I will change my mind eventually. Maybe it will become an unexpected favourite. After all, I build my zoo in Indonesia and haven't felt much inspired lately. So personally, I may use it, but objectively I think it's one of the worst animal choices we've seen.
I don't know if this is it, but ducks are very very common all around England and especially Cambridgeshire, which is a wetland. Many species of ducks but especially mallards can be seen at almost any wild pond. On the river near me there are mallards, muscovy ducks, pintails, white-faced whistling ducks (yes really!), white and black swans, grey geese, egyptian geese, canada geese, as well as coots, moorhens and other wild waterfowl.
So I don't know if the Frontier team would just have an unconscious bias against considering ducks a zoo animal. They are everywhere around us here, and many people collect rarer or more exotic species for fun. So zoos tend not to exhibit them, they often just have open spaces for wild ones to fly in (along with swans and herons).
That might be it? I know we have other common wild British fauna in the game, eg red foxes, but outside of London they aren't seen on the daily for outdoorsy people, whereas ducks pretty much are. I guess the same could be said about swans but they are held in higher esteem I would argue, as they are considered royal birds, so have a bit more status, ha! Weird thing to say
If this is the reason I'm not saying it's sensible, not at all, just that it might be the reason.
i think we all gott to congrats Frontier now.
For the first time they picked a animal which 95% of the community agrees is a really lame pick.
For the first time they picked a animal which 95% of the community agrees is a really lame pick.
Oh well, here is some nice news about an elephant 
www.goodnewsnetwork.org
Quick-Thinking Zoo Elephant Rescued a Drowning Gazelle with its Trunk
Using its trunk, the elephant first tried to pull the gazelle up of the water, but its struggles caused the elephant to lose its grip.
www.goodnewsnetwork.org
Honestly that could make sense, and I got to be honest thatās an even worse reason. Especially as it highlights mammal bias, red foxes are āexoticā as a local animal in an international market but a duck isnāt?I don't know if this is it, but ducks are very very common all around England and especially Cambridgeshire, which is a wetland. Many species of ducks but especially mallards can be seen at almost any wild pond. On the river near me there are mallards, muscovy ducks, pintails, white-faced whistling ducks (yes really!), white and black swans, grey geese, egyptian geese, canada geese, as well as coots, moorhens and other wild waterfowl.
So I don't know if the Frontier team would just have an unconscious bias against considering ducks a zoo animal. They are everywhere around us here, and many people collect rarer or more exotic species for fun. So zoos tend not to exhibit them, they often just have open spaces for wild ones to fly in (along with swans and herons).
That might be it? I know we have other common wild British fauna in the game, eg red foxes, but outside of London they aren't seen on the daily for outdoorsy people, whereas ducks pretty much are. I guess the same could be said about swans but they are held in higher esteem I would argue, as they are considered royal birds, so have a bit more status, ha! Weird thing to say
If this is the reason I'm not saying it's sensible, not at all, just that it might be the reason.
I know itās all speculation, but I really hope this is something more than āOh geez we just didnāt think about it this wayā. Iāll even say being from North America where waterfowl are common but not once have I thought these shouldnāt be zoo animals.
Whatās that 5 percentā¦.
99%** i miss clicked.
As for the 1%, ask the three persons that voted for it on the meta wishlist.
So, to recapitulate where we are at this point. It seems to be an Asia or Oriental pack rather than an India pack, containing the following species:
EDIT: I forgot about the birds. I've been conditioned by Frontier to not expect any bird. I'm not going into details here, almost any bird is welcome.
- Honey Badger
- Lion-Tailed Macaque
- Bornean Elephant
- PĆØre David's Deer
- Tanuki. We need something to represent Japan. A macaque and a crane don't seem enough for me.
- Blackbuck. for obvious reasons. Frontier, don't do this to you fanbase twice in a row. The absence of coati in Americas pack was already too much.
- Another Monkey. 2 monkeys in the same pack? How? Well it probably won't happen but why not. I'd love the Golden Snub-Nosed Monkey (even more now that they are at Pairi Daiza - BE and Zoo de Beauval - FR). I would also be so happy with a langur (FranƧois Langur or Hanuman Langur).
- Fishing Cat. I'm a feline lover but I have to say that I could definitely do without this cat in the game. However, if we're forced to have one more asian feline, then I want it to be the fishing cat and definitely not the lion.
- A canid. I think the tanuki would be the best canid to add for the sake of east Asia representation but Tibetan Fox or Golden Jackal could be nice additions.
- Another cervid or bovid. It is always a possibility with Frontier. I would hope that PĆØre David's Deer AND BLACKBUCK!! are enough, but plenty of others are looking at us from the corner... Yak, Gaur, Nilgai, Muntjac? I would rule out the Muntjac though because I think we would have seen its name in the coming challenge.
- A wild card: I'm not leaning too much into this theory but a reptile or a small mammal could happen. I'm still waiting for a Mongoose to enter this game.
EDIT: I forgot about the birds. I've been conditioned by Frontier to not expect any bird. I'm not going into details here, almost any bird is welcome.
I might be depending on how we look at it.
Sure I am on the side of those who think another Elephant is worst choice for DLC slot.
But since we're getting another elephant, I am completely Borneo Elephant as best choice for the subspecies
Anything is possible, and we have had packs with multiple antelope so multiple deer arenāt out of the question.
Fishing cats are pretty well ruled out, since the leak confirms that the only species in this DLC pack with the aquatic tag are the deer and elephant
Just remember, more people voted for the saola (10) than the bornean elephant (3)
Indeed, thought about that for ungulates but forgot for the cat. Well, I hope we won't get feline at all then.