Do I, or do I not ?

[Neo-ST]

what are the PC specs?
I agree to all posts here. I am also hooked to VR. All I can contribute is that I believe a 1080GTX is minmum for VR.

OP just make sure you put some cash aside for a powerful GPU as ED in VR needs a lot of grunt to maintain close to 90 FPS with graphics settings turned up. I don't know what others think but I'd consider a 1080 to be the minimum (and remember 1080ti coming out in a matter of days).

It'll be a i7-7700K with Zotac 1080 Amp Extreme and 16GB of RAM.
It's not decided yet, but I think 1080Ti will be too expensive to put it into equation (rumors say at least £700, and Zotac's Amp Extreme will cost me £510, not sure that Ti justifies the cost).

 

[TorTorden_VR]

It'll be a i7-7700K with Zotac 1080 Amp Extreme and 16GB of RAM.
It's not decided yet, but I think 1080Ti will be too expensive to put it into equation (rumors say at least £700, and Zotac's Amp Extreme will cost me £510, not sure that Ti justifies the cost).

The 1080ti is basically a Titan (that cost about 1100) for much less I would consider it an option.
Maybe if you already have a 1080 it might be a bit on the rich side.
But I'm considering one, although I'm 'only' on a 980ti.

 

[Hell Razor5543]

Elite: Dangerous makes VR, and VR makes Elite: Dangerous FAR more immersive that any good monitor. Your timing is also very good, as Oculus just this month dropped the price of the Rift CV1 (and accessories). I was contemplating getting the Touch controllers, and then, when I found they had dropped to £99 I ordered them. Robo Recall is great (but you will need space to play it), but something I did not expect was that the level of detail within Elite: Dangerous has (for me, at least) gone UP. I believe that this is due to the extra sensor enabling better triangulation of the headset. That might make it worth adding Touch to the options.

 

[Neo-ST]

I read something about supersampling with Rift. Do you guys use that and how does it impact performance? Is the difference worth it?

 

[dape]

It'll be a i7-7700K with Zotac 1080 Amp Extreme and 16GB of RAM.
It's not decided yet, but I think 1080Ti will be too expensive to put it into equation (rumors say at least £700, and Zotac's Amp Extreme will cost me £510, not sure that Ti justifies the cost).

very good setup.

 

[jojon]

I read something about supersampling with Rift. Do you guys use that and how does it impact performance? Is the difference worth it?

Just pop into the graphics options of the game, and increase "HMD Quality". Performance hit is roughly quadratic; Just try different values, and determine for yourself at which point you don't think it works for you any longer -- The driver stack has a few tricks up its sleeve, that creates new "fake"/delayed-and-adjusted frames from old ones, when your machine can't keep up providing 90 frames every second, which works surprisingly well, but 100% real frames is absolutely preferrable, especially when driving at speed on the surface. :7

EDIT: ...and yes, it is totally worth it.

 

[dape]

I read something about supersampling with Rift. Do you guys use that and how does it impact performance? Is the difference worth it?

absolutely. Multiply SS and HMD quality. Values of 1 to 1.5 are realistic and affect the visual quality most of all settings. But it is taxing on the GPU. I don't see much gain in quality between 1.3 and 1.5. That is why i settled with 1.3 (SS 0.65 and HMD 2.0)

download Dr Kaii's profile tool and dial something in similar to this...

 

[UniMag]

Do it!! I guarantee you'll not be dissaponted.

I lurked this sub forum for months before taking the plunge and so glad I did.

You'll witness such amazing moments that you could never get from 2D. Too many to list but the other evening I didn't have much playtime but fancied shutting out the outside world for a while and spent half an hour just circling around an outpost in awe of its size and the ambient sounds just emphasises the experience.

As others have said the rift is the best tech I've ever bought

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

what are the PC specs?
I agree to all posts here. I am also hooked to VR. All I can contribute is that I believe a 1080GTX is minmum for VR.

I cant comment for the vive but i have a gtx 980 and have a superb experience in vr with my rift. Not saying a 1080 would not be nice but i am not upgrading my 980 despite that being my plan initially

 

[Neo-ST]

I cant comment for the vive but i have a gtx 980 and have a superb experience in vr with my rift. Not saying a 1080 would not be nice but i am not upgrading my 980 despite that being my plan initially

Are you running with highest graphical settings and how's the performance ?

 

[Alec Turner]

Are you running with highest graphical settings and how's the performance ?

To be honest, even the 1080 can't run ED with highest graphical settings and maintain 90fps. The best I've managed is described over here ..

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...STAL-CLEAR-D?p=4777257&viewfull=1#post4777257

Note: since posting that I've switched to SS = 1.0, HMD Quality = 1.25 and Shadows = high.

SS controls what the ED code is doing while HMD Quality controls upscaling by the Oculus software. Having ED downscale the resolution it was generating only to then have the Oculus upscale it again seemed crazy when I thought about it. In the end it seemed far more logical to just leave SS at 1.0 and then wind down HMD Quality to a value that still gave decent performance.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Are you running with highest graphical settings and how's the performance ?

not running on max no. running on ultra kills my rig...

I run on VR high.Visually the difference between VR high and max is negligable in VR. I also dont wack up super sampling but imo the game still looks amazing. i am not saying a 1080ti would not be better - it would - but it is absolutely not a prerequisite.

other than elite dangerous, i pretty much put every game on the oculus store on full bubble with my set up and it works fine.

generally games which are VR games run perfect.
games which are 2d monitor games with VR mode i have to drop down a bit (Elite, Assetto corsa, pcars, ETS2, dirt rally)

my point was tho to the guy who said gtx 1080 is a minimum.

For the record when i started my modern vr journey with my dk2, i was playing elite with a GTX 670 on low detail and it STILL knocked spots off a monitor

 

[Alec Turner]

I concur with Mad Mike on the "minimum". I started out with a 970 and it was terrific (and that was before ASW).

 

[Neo-ST]

I've left graphics card last to buy. I will wait a few days more for prices of Ti to show up in stores, then decide definitely.
Thanks for your input Mad Mike.

 

[rennarda]

OP - run, do not walk, to your nearest Rift retailer and put down the money. You will not regret it.

I bought a DK2 about 18 months ago and haven't played in 2D since. I'm seriously considering upgrading to a CV1 this week, as the price has dropped and I have a buyer for my DK2.

I run a 970 (I think the '70 models are best value). Want to upgrade to a 10xx series card, but might skip a gen and go for the 11xx whenever it comes out. The 970 runs the Rift well, but not 100% smoothly at good levels of detail.*

Elite in VR is a bit like the Matrix. Nobody can tell you what the Matrix is, you have to see it with your own eyes. And once you take that pill, there's no going back...


* something I've wondered about - why can't cards/drivers automatically sacrifice quality in order to preserve framerate? If you're moving you head, you're not going to notice a drop in texture quality anyway...

 

[jojon]

Not unwise to wait those few days, at any rate: Along with the Ti will come a price reduction on the regular 1080, as far as I know.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

what are the PC specs?
I agree to all posts here. I am also hooked to VR. All I can contribute is that I believe a 1080GTX is minmum for VR.

I am happy with my AMD Fury GPU at the moment. Its my CPU that is probably holding me back at the moment.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

I've left graphics card last to buy. I will wait a few days more for prices of Ti to show up in stores, then decide definitely.
Thanks for your input Mad Mike.

obviously money and value is subjective... if you are loaded then just go balls out....

however if you like a bang for your buck, if it was my money I would be seriously looking at the GTX1070 or maybe the vanilla GTX 1080 depending on what prices drop to once the ti is out.

but again, there is no right or wrong answer to it, if i could afford a Lambo Aventador (yellow........ not that i have dreamt of it) I would not have considered buying a nissan 350z when i did.... but for most people I would probably argue the cheapo nissan be the better buy even tho it is not literally the better car

my GTX 980 does so well in general i am thinking i can skip this generation and buy an 11 series card in 12-18 months (though unless its a cheapo 2nd hand card i am not suggesting you buy a gtx 980)

 

[Marc JX8P]

On the subject of graphics cards: when I bought my Vive I had a 780 Ti in my i7 system. I thought I'd upgrade it if I found that the minimum vr spec (which was way above that card) was indeed necessary. So far, not a single vr game I tried has performed in a way that I actually felt I needed to upgrade. Don't get me wrong - I am probably not getting as much frames per second or visual quality as people with a higher range cards and I really do want to upgrade at some point - but the performance has pleasantly surprised me so far. I also find that the immersion of vr lets you get away with way less visual quality than you'd need on a monitor. As I said before though, I haven't been able to check ED out yet as my vr setup is in another room and optimised for standing vr but as soon as I am able to try it out I will let you know.

 

[Neo-ST]

Can someone explain me why is it important to maintain 90fps in Rift, and why some people mention "real" 90fps? Are there "fake" fps and what's the difference?