Do I really need the advanced scanner to explore
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My first exploration trip i went out with a basic scanner. Second time out i went with the intermediate.
You will miss stuff though without the advanced. I recommend you do a relatively short trip for the first one to get your feet wet, then come back and by the time you do, you should be able to get the advanced one.
You will miss stuff though without the advanced. I recommend you do a relatively short trip for the first one to get your feet wet, then come back and by the time you do, you should be able to get the advanced one.
I've carried an adv scanner since I could afford one, made ranger in exploration before ever leaving the bubble. Now most of my ships carry one, good money and a good way to make nice with factions.
I'd aslo suggest relatively short trip out first time. An Advanced Scanner (and Detailed Surface Scanner) will make a big difference to what you can earn as a pro explorer, but I think everyone should try (and at least know how to) discover planets with parallax (see video) and it's cool fun too imho. I go out and do it for a hobby sometimes! Second and third star solar systems are especially satisfying to dig out from the background.
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No, if you just want to fly around taking in the scenery...
Yes, if you want to explore and get some credits...
and a detailed surface scanner if you want to get more credits and your name on first discoveries.
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I'd also recommend an advanced scanner. Without you will not be able to see all the bodies in a system, which goes much more for systems with more than one star, also your scans won't get you that many credits.
With an advanced discovery scanner you will also have your credits back in no time if you just jump around outside of the bubble and scan after jump.
BUT, when I think "exploration", I think Formidine Rift or Beagle Point. If you can't wait for getting out there you might want to try a "short" trip to Barnard's Loop or Coalsack Nebula. But be careful with plotting your trip, because there are a lot of permit locked systems around Barnard's Loop. Good luck out there.
With an advanced discovery scanner you will also have your credits back in no time if you just jump around outside of the bubble and scan after jump.
BUT, when I think "exploration", I think Formidine Rift or Beagle Point. If you can't wait for getting out there you might want to try a "short" trip to Barnard's Loop or Coalsack Nebula. But be careful with plotting your trip, because there are a lot of permit locked systems around Barnard's Loop. Good luck out there.
Need? Like "can't explore without", no you don't "need" it, not like you "need" oxygen.
But it's kind of like exploring in the dark, with one hand tied behind your back.
It also doesn't take all that long to save up the credits for one either. I know, it seems like a lot, but it's really not.
But it's kind of like exploring in the dark, with one hand tied behind your back.
It also doesn't take all that long to save up the credits for one either. I know, it seems like a lot, but it's really not.
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Absolutely not. You can explore with as little as a stock sidewinder and the cheapest fuel scoop credits can buy. The advanced scanner makes things SO much easier though.
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No. I explored for ages with either a basic or intermediate scanner. The advanced scanner is easy mode. As discussed in another thread recently there is something satisfying about exploring when it actually demands you to reveal the constituent planets of a system yourself. It'll be slow at first but with some practice spotting planets in the black becomes second nature. But yes, ultimately once you have the money the advanced scanner is a _whole_ lot easier.
Yes, yes,yes, and yes. Go to Discount Space, and get one 15% off. Get an engineered DSS as well.
If OP can't afford an ADS then I guess they won't have the engineers unlocked yet
OP: Give it a go without the ADS if you're impatient, but you might find systems quite .. empty - will give you an idea what you want to do, and enough CR for the ADS [up]
I'd do some in-bubble exploration, lots of systems you can scan and sell data for and you'll very quickly get the money for an ADS and a DDS. Plus you'll learn all the basic skills you'll need when you head out into the Black.
Nope, not at all. I did my Sag A* run with an Intermediate scanner. Being able to find planets via the parralax method is fun, though you do miss a lot more than you spot. Personally I don't like doing anything without an advanced scanner fitted nowadays, as even with just 'local' runs I'm regularly finding new (to me) systems (the scanner really does pay for itself)
Do a short trip.... Maybe get 5000Ly from your start position and that's part of your Palin requirements done so if you don't like exploring you don't have to do it again and that trip should net enough to get the Ads for a longer trip.
If you are going to reply to someone asking for help. Why not say something useful rather than mocking?
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ok the basic disco will only find things out to a short distance. it will miss a lot unless you fly 500 ls away from the star both sides of the system, and rescan. that takes time. the inter will scan only out to 1500. it will find a lot more but i have seen gas giants orbitting a binary system at 3000 ls out plus. you wont see those, or distant stars except with naked eye - and not any planets they may have around them.
the ADS finds them all. you can then pick close targets to detail scan. it depends why you are going out there - but not so much as you think. because if you are going out purely to earn money, you need to prepare, to maximise profit and you really need ADS and the DSS to max the money. you will also need to engineer the FSD for max range - you wont be using it when you find undiscovered systems, but it gets you past the 2 to 3 thou ly sphere around the bubble thats been explored to death, and gets you back again quicker.
if you are going sightseeing, you will likely be willing to spend more time out there, more time flying around. but an ADS is still essential imo because even with flying around, and scanning with an IDS you still might not spot a distant star and to earn money from any planets around it or see if there is something strange (or even to scan for them) might require flying 100,000 or up to 500000 ls to the system to get in range. ADS is one honk and that money is made even if you dont want to fly out there (of course if there is an ELW or a black hole there its probably something you might want to fly out and see).
so it comes down to, you might miss something valuable/interesting without one. idk why you want to go out, making it harder to advise. you CAN get by without a DSS if all you want is to look at things. but it makes using an srv on planets to get mats for FSD injection random chance. for the serious explorer, the ADS AND DSS are a must; along with FSD engineered for range, the biggest fuel scoop you can fit (less time scooping means less tedious wasted time) and an srv and hangar to get mats for FSD injection and repairs/fuel for your srv.
Most insightful post of the thread, right there.
If you don't have the patience to accrue the funds for an ADS, exploring probably isn't for you.
It can be interesting to just arrive in a system, follow all the orbit lines (assuming you have them switched on) around until you find a planet, and any associated moons etc, but it gets old real fast.
If the intent of your exploration is just to get somewhere specific and have a look around you don't really need an ADS but if you really want to see everything that's out there (and earn decent credits for your efforts), you need one.