Do planet zoo game developer really know what we want in planet Zoo game ???

[NL_Mutso]

If it didn't change, they show monthly Updates on their Website

I know, also on steam.
They lost some audience by being quiet for long periods, not the smart way if you don't have a name in the gaming industry and likely can't afford promotion/advertising like bigger companies do.

And most importantly they have an obligation towards their kickstart community, people who donated their money so they could create this game/continue their progress.
Like keeping your investors informed about your progress. Actually it's somewhat expected from Kickstarter that "their" creators keep their investors informed.
But comparing Early Access games development promotion/news with already released games is a poor comparison to start with.

Their other product The Universim (also own that one) is something completely different communication and similar to most devs/games.

 

[random goat]

Just wait, at some point people will be able to accept this

This is the attitude that troubles me, not just in this case, it could apply to anything in life. I get that you can't compare apples and oranges (aka a game still under development and a 1 year old game). But this comformism when something is clearly wrong... Not trying to be demagogical here but if people had never requested, demanded or complained we'd still be dealing with the same as years ago in all aspects of life.
I don't think asking for better communication or community engagement in this case is out of place. I don't think people should just accept something when it clearly needs improvement. Not the right way to look at things in any industry specially if you're on the customer side. Just my thoughts, huh.

 

[NL_Mutso]

This is the attitude that troubles me, not just in this case, it could apply to anything in life. I get that you can't compare apples and oranges (aka a game still under development and a 1 year old game). But this comformism when something is clearly wrong... Not trying to be demagogical here but if people had never requested, demanded or complained we'd still be dealing with the same poopoo as years ago in all aspects of life.
I don't think asking for better communication or community engagement in this case is out of place. I don't think people should just accept something when it clearly needs improvement. Not the right way to look at things in any industry specially if you're on the customer side. Just my thoughts, huh.

Great, a preach. Also great to compare just a video game with other situations. People make different distinctions in different situations, but sadly - judging from your own comment - I don't think you understand this.
Generalizing like that, just a horrible attitude.

I would hardly call it asking in the last couple of months. Definately not constructive criticism. Mostly "why I'm not getting what I want?'
And even if they are replying to a question, people are still unable to cope with that answer. (never seen that on a gaming forum to this extend)
And if some people would really disagree with the Frontier approach, they wouldn't buy their DLC. So i don't think it's that big of a problem. At least take a stand.

The customer argument: I agree with Planet Zoo base game and released DLC should be working correctly.
Bugs and missing Frontier advertised features should be addressed, the issue tracker could need an upgrade to help with the support of that.
I mentioned quite often that they could improve on that communication but when people are asking for more communication that's not part of the discussion.

But other than that, they could stop support or creating DLC anytime they want. There's no season pass so you didn't pay for anything you didn't receive.
You can expect a customer to do some research before purchasing but complaining after not doing this or not enough, c'mon that's not how you handle things.

 

[random goat]

Whatever. I won't bother arguing here.
I just hope Frontier devs are intelligent enough not to position themselves into the comformist side (talking just about PZ) with you and your buddy LN and the game keeps getting better based on the feedback from people who actually love the game, share its passion for it and, last but not least, want the best for it.

 

[iloveyourzoos]

Back to the original topic of this thread (Do the developers know what we want).... There's a meme today of content creators answering what 4 items they'd like to see added to PZ. Should we be recording these here on the forums as well, since this is the place Frontier has asked us to give ideas?

 

[ElectricMonk]

.... There's a meme today of content creators answering what 4 items they'd like to see added to PZ.....

Any chance you could link to this? I'd be interested in seeing what they say.

 

[iloveyourzoos]

Any chance you could link to this? I'd be interested in seeing what they say.

I actually typed these up, but then realized that it might run against the forum rules around polls and petitions, as well as revealing personal twitter handles.

If you search twitter for @planetzoogame using Latest Mentions, it's the series over the past 24 hours that asks "What 4 items you'd like to be added."

 

[Dezessete]

BUT the way Crytivo is communicating, reacting to feedback, showing a road map and interacting with it's customers makes me and others drawn to it.

Their other product The Universim (also own that one) is something completely different communication and similar to most devs/games.

It triggers me hard that people don't know the difference between Blue Meridian and Crytivo.
Especially the comparison with the Universim is just brain melting.

 

[starman]

That applies to all Frontier game. As long as its grindy its it.

 

[HeatherG]

Some of the discussion was bit off topic. If you would like to discuss Prehistoric Kingdom there is a thread in Off Topic Gaming.
Also if we could keep the discussion respectful from here on out it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

 

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[random goat]

Oh, what a coincidence! I'll send a DM.

 

[Joël]

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[Sir.Tj]

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[paul78]

I think at the end of the day we all would like bigger packs with more animals but truthfully I really don’t see the current format changing or at least as drastically as some wish. I do believe eventual all animal packs will be released but instead of 12-20 animals I’m thinking 8-10 tbh. I know they showed the video discussing how much faster they could make rigs but there’s still research,sounds,behavior,animations, coding, and not to mention updating current zoo guests and animals in some cases. So I don’t think we’ll see packs released monthly or anything less then 3 months at the least. I do believe some exciting features and animals are still on the way tho. I did read maybe in here someone doubted aviary content. This is imo simply not true I believe frontier is working on this as they were perfecting the aquatic animations as we speak. They did it in JWE and they will find a way to do it in this as well. The only question is how advanced it will be and what the engine will allow?

 

[NL_Mutso]

I did read maybe in here someone doubted aviary content. This is imo simply not true I believe frontier is working on this as they were perfecting the aquatic animations as we speak

i agree, but if there wasn't an aviary feature for JWE - I would doubt that one too.

 

[Swjosdotschka]

I know they showed the video discussing how much faster they could make rigs but there’s still research,sounds,behavior,animations, coding, and not to mention updating current zoo guests and animals in some cases.

Then again, they were perfectly fine to sacrifice a bit of realism, to give us Orangutans and Western Lowland Gorillas in the base game. I believe to save time they ddin't change the movements. Personally, it doesn't bother me that much and I'd like to look over such small things if we'd have a bigger variety of animals instead. I don't think the sounds are that time consuming. And even if it is, there is a solution to it all: resources. I know there will now be people saying, that they wouldn't want to invest in a game that numbres aren't as expected. But for me that is very short sighted. The numbres aren't like this, because there is no interest in the game from a player perspective, but because features, the animal list and the all in all advertisment need improvement.

If you post onnly animal facts like how mich poop an elephant does produce, let a milestone like an aniversary pass without a huge BANG and don't get people excited and curious for the future of the game, but only give away some codes every three month, of course you can't keep an audience interested. They even let JustGoron being on the news with their game almost pass by, if we didn't say anything. They aren't even aware of the channels that cover their game, so they seem to not know what aspects they could use to advertise it more. If they were A LOT more sensetive to their sourrundings, they'd notice a thing or two and would probably realize that investing isn't a bad idea.

 

[nutrit]

When the game was released I really thought that they would make a huge online library of countless deluxe animal species - where you can buy them as you like because this game just ask for it. And the only thing that would limit you is the money you want to spend.
I think they could make great amount of money selling 1 species for 2,99$. That would be my biggest dream.

 

[Firestar97]

When the game was released I really thought that they would make a huge online library of countless deluxe animal species - where you can buy them as you like because this game just ask for it. And the only thing that would limit you is the money you want to spend.
I think they could make great amount of money selling 1 species for 2,99$. That would be my biggest dream.

I would love this so much. I really wish they would do something like this even if it would be only for additional Subspecies I would still buy at least some of them

 

[paul78]

I agree the animals could have more individualistic behavior as advertised in the beginning for sure. I’ve got four Nile monitors that love to swim surely if one didn’t prefer to swim that would definitely be a sign of that behavior. I was more less just stating the basic things involved in making animals. Now with around 70 habitat animals give or take the question is will we ever get those individual behaviors? I guess if not I could be happy with certain animals like orangutans getting a boosted update to more realistic climbing mechanics and the rest of the animals that should get some form of diving animations get them. I do know frontier seems to choose certain updates for certain times so the advertised individual behaviors maybe easier and more sense to save till the end of the game if we were to get this feature. With the diving animations it was admitted that they had been planned and worked on from the start but couldn’t be released till it was perfected so maybe the same goes for many other features the game is yet to receive. True as far as individual behaviors go they could start now but it could also be easier once every species to make the roster is in game.