Newcomer / Intro Docking for newbies is a nightmare (dev's U need to do something)

That said, and when you get MEDIUM and/or LARGE ships, you do get enough module slots to not really care about consuming one for the Docking module?
Guess I'm saying on smaller ships, because of size and maneuverability, perhaps a Docking module isn't as important as it is on a larger ship?

Dunno.. Personally, most of the time, when I'm flying a large ship, it's fitted for maximum cargo space. That said, the DC is kinda slow and sometimes hilariously flaky, so I'm not a fan anyway. It's easy to take a large Lakon or similar in at a reasonable speed and dump it on the pad once you've done it a couple of times to get a feel for where the edges are. The DC doesn't save time, and it can't be trusted- so I really don't see the point, other than for the pure fun of it :)
 
But for Newbies docking is a real challenge. Mostly because of lack of information on what to do. Yes, there are lots of YouTube videos on docking. But most fail to give you important information about how they knew to do what they were doing. It wasn't until about my fourth video that the presenter mentioned how to actually find the dock using the ship display. Until then I was having to fly around inside the hanger wondering why I couldn't see this dock number that all the video found without any trouble. For a Newbie watching the ten minute timer tick away this is really frustrating. The fix was just a simple piece of information that most of the video tutorial makers just assumed the player knew.
 

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I played Elite years ago and docking without the auto docking was a nightmare.

This version is worse. If you are a newbie like me it's frustrating to the point i just can not be bothered after spending 6 hours going back and forth getting to a new station and trying to land. It is and will drive your customers away. The game is supposed to fun, not about spending a day or more trying to learn how to do this. Landing your ship should be reasonbably easy, make the combat hard, but something as basic as this for a game should be 10 times easier at least.

For us older guys who played Elite back in the day we now don't have days on end to practise mundane stuff like this, we have lifes and families and can pick the game up for a few hours at most.

It looks such a great game and it's such a shame so please change this, thanks.


Absolutly not its all part of the training and getting to now your ship docking is the easy part its just like flightsimulator you have to get experience and it takes time .they already made it easier during premium beta.

There is a docking computer for sale it takes longer but you can land safely.
 
While I understand and agree with your viewpoint about the orientation (facing) of the craft while landing on a pad, the requirement of centering on the pad makes sense. I don't agree with your verbiage of "nearly perfect" because I believe there is a fair amount of leeway when landing. When creating a landing pad that supports a variety of sizes of spacecraft, you would like to reduce the likely hood of a damaging the landing pad and/or spacecraft when parts of the craft are hanging over the edge of the pad and therefore require the pilot to land generally around the center of the pad.

If they really wanted to do that, stations would make docking computers mandatory. Nobody would want random fumble-fingered idiots flying around and banging into their stations as much as I do.
 
But for Newbies docking is a real challenge. Mostly because of lack of information on what to do. Yes, there are lots of YouTube videos on docking. But most fail to give you important information about how they knew to do what they were doing. It wasn't until about my fourth video that the presenter mentioned how to actually find the dock using the ship display. Until then I was having to fly around inside the hanger wondering why I couldn't see this dock number that all the video found without any trouble. For a Newbie watching the ten minute timer tick away this is really frustrating. The fix was just a simple piece of information that most of the video tutorial makers just assumed the player knew.

Did you try the single player training scenarios? The launching, traveling and docking ones let you do it as much as you want for practice.
 
But for Newbies docking is a real challenge. Mostly because of lack of information on what to do. Yes, there are lots of YouTube videos on docking. But most fail to give you important information about how they knew to do what they were doing. It wasn't until about my fourth video that the presenter mentioned how to actually find the dock using the ship display. Until then I was having to fly around inside the hanger wondering why I couldn't see this dock number that all the video found without any trouble. For a Newbie watching the ten minute timer tick away this is really frustrating. The fix was just a simple piece of information that most of the video tutorial makers just assumed the player knew.

I'm an old / krusty noob here, having NEVER played this type of game before.
Mainly I play 1st person shooters, primarily Counter Strike Global offense, a radically different game.
(Day-Z too and H1Z1 for my zombie fix.)

Didn't even have the hardware but I knew if I wanted to nail it, I'd have to shell out some quid for a proper setup - which I did.
(really tempted to do 3 monitors but again more quid for the monitors and the extra vid card... boo hoo...)

I'm only a week into the game and really find landings to be one of the most appealing aspects of the game, since you have virtually complete control of the process.

As for researching how to how land properly, or for that matter, any researching any part of the game, a big component of the game IS exploring, so it's hard for me to critique the learning curve, since for me, every aspect of the game is learning and exploring - and one day I might even venture into deep space! :)
(must remember that fuel scoop - last time i ventured out , I ran out of juice, turned on the beacon, waited, waited, then went for a space walk - fun fun :( )
 
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But for Newbies docking is a real challenge. Mostly because of lack of information on what to do. Yes, there are lots of YouTube videos on docking. But most fail to give you important information about how they knew to do what they were doing. It wasn't until about my fourth video that the presenter mentioned how to actually find the dock using the ship display. Until then I was having to fly around inside the hanger wondering why I couldn't see this dock number that all the video found without any trouble. For a Newbie watching the ten minute timer tick away this is really frustrating. The fix was just a simple piece of information that most of the video tutorial makers just assumed the player knew.

As I never did any of the tutorials, I had been playing for a couple of weeks before I found out that the display pointed towards your landing pad :D I cannot say it was a major issue. I doubt it ever took more than ten seconds to look around and see where my pad was.
 
Didn't even have the hardware but I knew if I wanted to nail it, I'd have to shell out some quid for a proper setup - which I did.
(really tempted to do 3 monitors but again more quid for the monitors and the extra vid card... boo hoo...)

An Oculus Rift is cheaper (~£300) and far more immersive than three monitors could ever be in ED :)
 
Just wanted to feedback that as a brand new player, I had no trouble landing at all and have found it fun.

The only thing I did was make sure I knew all my keyboard layout, read the sidewinder owners manual, (found on the forum) and played the landing tutorial once.

I've played frontier elite before 20 years ago so understood about flying through a dock entrance, but that's my only advantage.
 
There is no way I'd trust a large ship to ME. Docking computer in everything bigger than a Cobra for me.

I have destroyed 4 or so ships while docking. Docking Computer has destroyed 1 (pre v1.2). More than 75% of my docking has been with DC


You're brave trusting a DC.... After my initial problems with docking (all to do with controller setup) I find docking a breeze, now.

But for S&G, I bought a DC to see how well it does. I was landing in a big starport with a Cobra. As soon as I got landing authorisation, the DC took over... And proceeded to jamb me into the cage that surrounds the slot, and bounce me around in the slot itself!!! OMG, I had no idea how to disable the DC, so I jumped to my modules and turned off its power!

Stupid thing... I sold it immediately and will never have another.
 
I have destroyed 4 or so ships while docking. Docking Computer has destroyed 1 (pre v1.2). More than 75% of my docking has been with DC

You've destroyed ships while docking??? Please reassure us that you don't work for an airline company in any capacity higher than baggage handler or reservation clerk.
 
Finding the number implies docking was requested. The landing "schematic" not appearing is more a symptom of forgetting to lower landing gear.

No it doesn't. I used to think that, but have gotten in trouble a few times for going to the wrong dock. Plus there have been multiple times I have gone to land, only to see anywhere from 2-7 or8 numbers lite up over docks, and I have to search for my specific number.
 
The navigation ball (top left of the dashboard, to the right of the target holo) will always point you towards your assigned landing pad.
 
You've destroyed ships while docking??? Please reassure us that you don't work for an airline company in any capacity higher than baggage handler or reservation clerk.

Yeah, that made me stop and reread it a few times, chuckling "how in the heck???" Then I thought about it some more and realized that, yeah, I've had a few really close calls... like flying in through the mail slot in a T6 carrying a full load of Platinum only to realize I had not requested docking permission and frantically trying to get that cow turned around and back out of the station (this before the trespassing time limit was extended). I've never destroyed a ship while docking, but if I'm honest that's more Luck than Skill.
 
No it doesn't. I used to think that, but have gotten in trouble a few times for going to the wrong dock. Plus there have been multiple times I have gone to land, only to see anywhere from 2-7 or8 numbers lite up over docks, and I have to search for my specific number.

You can't say "no it doesn't" as it does cause that. The phrase you were looking for might be more "it doesn't just imply that". HTH. Also, don't fret searching for your dock. The little compass display (that you use for aligning with targets/jump targets) works for docking pads too. It's a nice touch.
 
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