The most interesting BGS action lately IMO has been the "Turn the Wheel" initiative, as it has an "immersive nomenclature" for those of us interested in Raxxla. Like Obi said, I can dip my toes in this particular BGS work somewhat casually as the mood hits.
Does FDev care about botting?
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Hmm, I should look that up, maybe something for my poor alt CMDR to keep busy with as they're content with flying their Cobra 3 so no other goals really.
PP BGS stuff explained with hand puppets and double entendre.
In fact, it would be a bit like Mr Flibble:
Wipe out security and sell them drugs Mr Flibble?
Yep, stuff like that is awesome.
I'm just irked that half the bubble seems to be controlled by factions with really edgy yet out of place squadron names. I get it of course, player agency is important and all, just hard to find decent systems without them being ruled by Turbo Pirates or Ice-Cream Lovers (apologies to those factions if they happen to exist, just made them up).
op probably did the right thing making this thread, if there is enough noise it might force frontier's hand to come out, make a statement, ban someone in this particular instance, with the effect of future bots becoming a bit more discrete. for a while. that's the best i would expect.
it's one of these rabbit holes frontier doesn't even want to go into. just like, cough, trainers or combat log.
I wonder how many brand new Epic accounts are flying in that particular system.
maybe, free alts. although alts were already cheap enough for someone with these motivations. i'm pretty sure this has been going on for a long time, just discreetly enough to not make a fuss. actually, very few people have an interest in this and care, like op.
I also don't care for the "This is our system, what are you doing here?" attitude many player factions have. This has been one of the common excuses for ganking, because how dare you do any business in a system that a player / squadron "owns". Factions like these are the ones I like to purposefully undermine when I'm in the rare mood to play BGS. I don't need to "win" to get on their nerves, and getting on their nerves is it's own reward
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Not saying you are one of them, but a thread like this without evidence is not going to go well here, because there are many folks that come complain for the most absurd reasons or without the proper game knowledge.
The only bot situation that was taken seriously afaik was the mahon reddit post which came with a lot of proof and the bots were mode switching with extremely weird flying patterns and public inara profiles. It was years ago - I'd assume since then the bots have improved and won't even be in open.
That said, I don't think Frontier is just ignoring the problem but wages their own hidden war. Discussion on detection/bans is very dangerous because it would only lead to the bot makers being made aware of what needs to be refined. I do think it's a slower than normal process though because there's not much room for the players to do the bot finding.
Ideally some more transparency on BGS actions would be useful. Most notably exploration data, war efforts and mission running have none.
The only bot situation that was taken seriously afaik was the mahon reddit post which came with a lot of proof and the bots were mode switching with extremely weird flying patterns and public inara profiles. It was years ago - I'd assume since then the bots have improved and won't even be in open.
That said, I don't think Frontier is just ignoring the problem but wages their own hidden war. Discussion on detection/bans is very dangerous because it would only lead to the bot makers being made aware of what needs to be refined. I do think it's a slower than normal process though because there's not much room for the players to do the bot finding.
Ideally some more transparency on BGS actions would be useful. Most notably exploration data, war efforts and mission running have none.
Want proof of a bot? Here ya go
Bubble - Colonia Fuel Tankers
Heads up for anyone needing a ride.. LKS Atlas & LKS Jahre Viking will be departing for Colonia on Sun 16th, Mon 17th. Fuel for sale on arrival will be 22,000 tonnes. No shipyard or outfitting installed on outbound trip. Return leg is via explorers anchorage. Atlas (Fortune Class) will be...
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Nah. And to be perfectly honest FC route plotting (and arguably, auto-refueling) should really be part of the actual game.Want proof of a bot? Here ya go
Bubble - Colonia Fuel Tankers
Heads up for anyone needing a ride.. LKS Atlas & LKS Jahre Viking will be departing for Colonia on Sun 16th, Mon 17th. Fuel for sale on arrival will be 22,000 tonnes. No shipyard or outfitting installed on outbound trip. Return leg is via explorers anchorage. Atlas (Fortune Class) will be...forums.frontier.co.uk
Um, the owner of that carrier wasn't even by the computer as it played on it's own. Kind of cheating when another player with a fleet carrier isn't using macros to automate getting to, and selling fuel at Colonia. But by all means, put your head in the sand.
... and now the thread descends even further into 'what is botting anyway?' arguments - does VA count
It's as bad as trying to get 2 CMDRs to agree on what an 'exploit' is
It's as bad as trying to get 2 CMDRs to agree on what an 'exploit' is
What a read, well done all!
Or the definition of ganking/griefing!... and now the thread descends even further into 'what is botting anyway?' arguments - does VA count
It's as bad as trying to get 2 CMDRs to agree on what an 'exploit' is
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As I said - if operating FCs would be more user friendly than they currently are (i.e. not at all) then players wouldn't have to resort to these things. Also not sure how bringing Tritium to a fuel starved, remote region is cheating. These FC owners do other players a favour, if anything.
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Finding Raxxla, no?what an 'exploit' is
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Because it's a carrier going to Colonia, that would make botting okay? What about others who wanted to profit at Colonia but didn't want to risk running automation scripts and getting banned by fdev? It's hard for other traders to compete with bots. You wanted proof of botting, well I gave it to you. Your logic doesn't hold up either, If FCs were just more user friendly, people wouldn't have to resort to botting...
Yes, and all PC players are cheaters because they get to use a keyboard and mouse, something we can't do on PS4.
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