Just for the record, I have noticed AI using PA from very odd angles, looks like they are equipped with gimbaled PA's.
Does the AI cheat or was this a bug?
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I have also seen anacondas using iCutters as ammunition. Literally shooting cutters out and impaling this Fed 'vette with them.
Oh look, anecdotal daydreaming isn't that hard after all
I actually have more legit proof than you do as it happens...
Well, I haven't had any yet and I spent my whole play session in a combat zone last night. As far as I know they don't have any, but if they do, then that's fine. They are not cheating. And that reply from support doesn't actually make it clear that they are back in.
This could be lag. Difficult to know.
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Sarah Jane Avory
Retro Queen
They don't (trust me), so it's most likely network lag. PAs and rail-guns are all fixed.
I have also seen anacondas using iCutters as ammunition. Literally shooting cutters out and impaling this Fed 'vette with them.
Oh look, anecdotal daydreaming isn't that hard after all
I actually have more legit proof than you do as it happens...
This made me burst into an embarrassingly loud bray of laughter and now everyone is looking at me. Thanks.
NPCs carrying Low Temp Diamonds definitely do cheat - their FSD has no cooldown when interdicted - they start spooling up immediately.
they may not have access to gimbaled PAs,
but i have seen youtube vids showing NPC corvettes shooting with huge cannon turrets
I have also seen anacondas using iCutters as ammunition. Literally shooting cutters out and impaling this Fed 'vette with them.
Oh look, anecdotal daydreaming isn't that hard after all
I actually have more legit proof than you do as it happens...
StiTch baby.... really... too much time on your hands?
Love it!
Troy_McClure
Banned
I have also seen anacondas using iCutters as ammunition. Literally shooting cutters out and impaling this Fed 'vette with them.
Oh look, anecdotal daydreaming isn't that hard after all
I actually have more legit proof than you do as it happens...
Ah yes..a recently discovered masterpiece from the 'Rinzler PaintShop Pro movement' of the early C21st!
And NPCs carrying refineries. It's a known and reported bug.
Well cheating AI is a good excuse if things go south in the RES. But I think the OP was the victim of a bug, or maybe he was sniped by a cheeky CMDR with long range hammers.
Troy_McClure
Banned
They do cheat, but it's not in the way we usually see in posts here ie FAOFF, impossible to miss rails, impervious to heat, never ending SCBs/chaff etc.etc. No, it's the instantaneous reactions to all of a player's inputs; this means you cannot pull moves to fool them - like you can with players - which is highly unsatisfying in terms of gameplay. Ofc you can use this mechanic against them too, but that is pretty lame & just makes them even easier to kill!
On the surface it may seem like it's easier to use the same player rules but in reality it can be a lot harder because you need to program in a lot of conditions that are common sense to the player. If you can skip over programming those common sense rules in favour of a "cheat" that in 90% of scenarios wouldn't even be noticed then you save yourself a lot of work and potentially considerable performance overhead. AI programming is probably one of the most difficult parts of game design if you want to offer any "believable" behaviours ... I'm yet to find any game that has offered a tangible improvement on AI when compared against the improvement of graphics on yesteryear. It feels like every year graphics comes leaps and bounds but AI remains relatively stagnant.
Elite Dangerous does really well though, the last big AI update was a huge improvement that I'm sad to say was short lived.
People seem to be getting confused here. I was not near the surface, I was in a deep space USS with some debris.. That's why I said a wreck.
They do cheat, it is a bug, but it's "working as intended"
It's not a bug, it's a feature... Lost track of how many times I've heard that excuse
100% sure there wasn't another CMDR in the area. Just me and the Viper and some bits of debris. But we wandered out of the debris field during the fight.
rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
The Mistress has spoken!
AI does not cheat guys. I actually had a nice chat with Sarah at Lavecon where she's explained how they fly. they don't cheat
The Mistress has spoken!
AI does not cheat guys. I actually had a nice chat with Sarah at Lavecon where she's explained how they fly. they don't cheat
Alternately, the AI do things that they shouldn't and these things are unknown and unintentional to the programmer who wrote the code - i.e.... ... bugs!
Case in point? The period of uncertainty between the 2.1 AI going live, and people being unsure of whether the AI were just darn good at destroying ships quickly, or something else was going on. As we now know, the AI were messing up engineered weapon effects to give things like 'chain-gun' plasma accelerators. There was no intention for the AI to cheat, but they did so all the same. Ooops.
And the tactical ability for the AI to fly without cheating, is also separate from some of the AI RNG spawning effects - e.g. harassment of players by mission-spawned AI across systems that the AI couldn't have actually reached due to jump drive limitations.
*Edit* I'd have liked to have been a fly on the wall for your conversation about AI. For my sins I've been involved with a bit of agent-based modelling work over the past few years, and trying to model reactions to what their 'imperfect' (but actually perfect) senses are telling them to act 'more human', is a lot of fun.
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