Earth-like and ammonia world in same system

[Chrystoph]

Regarding finding screenshots, you can use Windows Explorer.

Spoiler

There is a Search field in the upper right. If you select the C: in the tree on the far left,

then use the Search using *.jpg and *.png

and that will show you every image that might be a screen shot. It will take a while, though, because it will also turn up every image that is in your browse history.

 

[KILLJA WITTA]

Here's one I was first to visit, cataloged, and bookmarked. But someone else got the credit of discovering it.

My bad. water world and ammonia world.

 

[stuarta]

Here's the one I found - along with a couple of other interesting ones - my first ringed earthlike - and it's in binary with a ringed waterworld!

 

[Susanna]

They are in Users/[username]/My Documents/My Pictures/Frontier Developments/Elite Dangerous.

Also, nice find! Both being in the same system is much more rare than either of them on their own.


@ Oggy85: overall, ammonia worlds are a bit more common than Earth-likes. But if you stick to systems which are more likely to have ELWs, then those are less likely to have AWs. Same the other way around - which is also why having both kinds in the same system is rare.

What type of systems are Ammonia world's most likely to spawn in then?

 

[Nightjar]

Someone (sorry, didn't note) did a deeper analysis on Exploration forum. TLDR; (and my takeaway) was 'filter for 'F' class. I tried 'only F' in the filter and, depending on local region, definitely seemed more productive.
Basically - my guess is 'F' for the greater likelihood of Ammonia/EL worlds.
o7

 

[Sapyx]

Someone (sorry, didn't note) did a deeper analysis on Exploration forum. TLDR; (and my takeaway) was 'filter for 'F' class. I tried 'only F' in the filter and, depending on local region, definitely seemed more productive.
Basically - my guess is 'F' for the greater likelihood of Ammonia/EL worlds.
o7

I have seen this myself, in my own survey results: A-type stars showed slightly higher Earth-likes, and showed an equal probability for ELW and Ammonia (21 of both types of worlds were found in 1000 systems). For F-type stars, ELWs were slightly down (19), but Ammonias were significantly higher (28).

The thing to note with A-type stars is that, while the smaller subclasses (A7 to A9) are best of any stellar subtype for finding ELWs, the bigger A-type subtypes (A0 to A6) are much worse, and they drag down the overall average for A-type stars. And there's no easy way to set the galaxy map filter for subtypes. So the absolute best way of ELW-hunting, and probably AW-hunting too, is to manually select A7 to A9 stars off the galaxy map.

 

[Hedy]

I came across this system late last year then an almost identical one a few weeks later.
B class main star.

EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map

The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.

www.edsm.net

 

[Astrometer]

I just found this already discovered one.

EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map

The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.

www.edsm.net

 

[Oytis57]

What type of systems are Ammonia world's most likely to spawn in then?

I don't know if exists an overall average reliable data set, basing on my last trip (arrived at Shinrarta this morning) to the Void Hearts,so about 44k ly go and return, most of the times Ammonias were around F stars and some A, sometimes WWs too in system (i've filtered out M all the way), I haven't kept an exact count but in this trip I got 10/11 ELWs, about 16 Ammonias a ton of WWs and HMC Terraformables,at some point I only checked A/B/F/ and some G stars and skipped K totally.

 

[Susanna]

I don't know if exists an overall average reliable data set, basing on my last trip (arrived at Shinrarta this morning) to the Void Hearts,so about 44k ly go and return, most of the times Ammonias were around F stars and some A, sometimes WWs too in system (i've filtered out M all the way), I haven't kept an exact count but in this trip I got 10/11 ELWs, about 16 Ammonias a ton of WWs and HMC Terraformables,at some point I only checked A/B/F/ and some G stars and skipped K totally.

Thanks. I've been looking at any stars that are larger than M class... I'm Not sure of the value of what I've been doing... thanks for the info you have provided! K may need to be ignored too?

 

[jpjeffrey]

The famous (infamous?) Robigo has all 3 of these (ELW, WW and AW)......

 

[Sapyx]

The famous (infamous?) Robigo has all 3 of these (ELW, WW and AW)......

You must be thinking of some other system. Robigo doesn't have any of those world types present. Sothis has two ELWs and one WW, but no AWs. Ceos only has an ammonia-atmosphere WW.

 

[jpjeffrey]

EDSM lists these

EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map

The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.

www.edsm.net

(.. or is this just a list of the POTENTIAL zone rather than the ACTUAL....?)

 

[Sapyx]

K may need to be ignored too?

K-type stars have significantly fewer ELWs and AWs than F, and A stars, and only slightly fewer than G stars. ELWs are about 1 in 80 for K, compared to about 1 in 50 for F and A. For ammonia worlds, it's 1 in 50 for K, and 1 in 40 for F and A.

The main reason to exclude them is sheer weight of numbers. If you keep K types in your filter, and plot a course at random, then K-type stars will be the significant majority of stars you end up visiting.

 

[Sapyx]

EDSM lists these

EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map

The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.

www.edsm.net

(.. or is this just a list of the POTENTIAL zone rather than the ACTUAL....?)

That's just the goldilocks zones for the primary star, not actual planets. To see actual planets present, click on the "Celestial bodies" tab.

 

[jpjeffrey]

That's just the goldilocks zones for the primary star, not actual planets. To see actual planets present, click on the "Celestial bodies" tab.

Thanks!

 

[Susanna]

K-type stars have significantly fewer ELWs and AWs than F, and A stars, and only slightly fewer than G stars. ELWs are about 1 in 80 for K, compared to about 1 in 50 for F and A. For ammonia worlds, it's 1 in 50 for K, and 1 in 40 for F and A.

The main reason to exclude them is sheer weight of numbers. If you keep K types in your filter, and plot a course at random, then K-type stars will be the significant majority of stars you end up visiting.

Thank you for these numbers! I'll exclude K type stars as well then!

 

[Oytis57]

Thanks. I've been looking at any stars that are larger than M class... I'm Not sure of the value of what I've been doing... thanks for the info you have provided! K may need to be ignored too?

I did it on my way back (ignoring K) because I was in a rush but in the going trip some of them gave couple of Ammonias and the usual WW/HMC Terrafformables, not proficient as Fs and As though.

 

[CMDR CHIGGY VONRICTOFEN]

3104 ELWs out of 219,974 systems searched....sorry, I don't scan AWs as a general rule, they are usually further out than ELWs and TCs, so I don't bother.

 

[marx]

That chart illustrates very well how one Commander's individual habits can influence their end results. Small sample sizes can lead to inaccuracies as well, although for the purposes of the questions, it might not matter.
Here's what I think are the two best charts on the matter, by @Orvidius 's EDAstro, generated from the EDSM data:

and

Note how significant the standard deviation is, and how high the outliers can go.
There are similar charts by mass code instead, those are worth looking at too.


On another note, I checked the numbers: out of about 61 million systems on EDSM, only 9,724 have at least one ELW and AW. A few dozen of those are terraformed ELWs though.