ED and the Oculus Rift Developers Kit 2 (DK2) Discussion Thread
I ordered mine at the beginning of September. I seriously doubt I'll see it in October. Your Xmas prediction seems more likely! Maybe ED will have direct support for it by then. Maybe even iRacing too! Currently the only 2 games I play.
Last night I decided to give my laptop a test run with the ED DK2 combo. Basically because I'm tired of restarting the game every 5-20 minutes on my main PC because of position drift (which happens when you play with all VR drivers uninstalled to overcome the no SSE4.1 problem).
It was due to the fact that my laptop has an Nvidia card and I hoped that the new driver might make the experience somewhat bearable. Well, it didn't (it's just a GTX 660M, so really not enough, even on low). But I spotted one HUGE difference between the "driver on" and "driver off" setup.
On the laptop ("driver on", position tracking working) the entire game looked like from an old Wing Commander game. The colouring all overly bright. It felt "cartoony" to me.
On the PC ("no driver", only directional tracking) all looks toned down a lot. Which imho creates a much better mood. More like, I don't know. The reimagined Battlestar Galactica series or such.
So - once Beta 2 lands and we (hopefully) finally get full support for the current Runtime, including position tracking for the aging AMDs. Will my universe be tainted by overly shiny colours, or will there be a way to tone it down to the "slightly dirty" levels of original Star Wars?
The colours on the rift were wrong for me the first time I played after the 1.06update, applying the chromatic aberration fix seemed to sort it out! No idea it was just coincidence though..
In other news, I'm very pleased with the upgrade my single 970 has given me. Though it can handle high details fine in space, at star ports it still struggles. I've settled on a setting somewhere between mid and low, still get a teeny tiny bit of judder in star ports, but it's much, much better than before, and now I can at least have shadows enabled!
Played for 5 hours straight last night. The only ill effect was a bit of an ache from having the straps too tight! Hehe. My other half loved mocking me for looking like a ludicrous geek. But I don't care. I AM LITERALLY A SPACE PILOT!
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really?
I must admit I kind of assumed a 970 would run ED at full bubble judging on how my GTX670 managed.
hopefully this is just game optimisation issues.
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I was hoping that the 970 would max out as well. I might just stump out the extra cash for a 980*. Even if optimisation helps, there's no telling what the future holds.
*subject to money in wallet
There are lots of things to consider when it comes to the rift though.
The 970 can just about hold 60 fps on max settings on my 1200p monitor, it's still the star ports that kill it though. We I say 'kill it' but it would drop a few frames. Fine on a screen to do that, but dropped frames on rift = bad news.
On the rift, not only is the framerate target 15 frames higher, the game isn't using the most up to date runtime and could be falling into the trap of rendering at a higher resolution than it needs to (learnt about that during the Carmack Keynote @ the Oculus Connect conference). It's also rendering two viewpoints which is more demanding.
I definitely believe that the majority of the tweaking will be on Frontier to do. If they can just improve the star port performance then we'll be golden.
I also have to admit that I really can't see much difference in the cockpit of my sidewinder on high vs low settings.. Other than the lovely dynamic shadows!
Fwiw it's a lot smoother generally than it used to be on my 670.
The 970 can just about hold 60 fps on max settings on my 1200p monitor, it's still the star ports that kill it though. We I say 'kill it' but it would drop a few frames. Fine on a screen to do that, but dropped frames on rift = bad news.
On the rift, not only is the framerate target 15 frames higher, the game isn't using the most up to date runtime and could be falling into the trap of rendering at a higher resolution than it needs to (learnt about that during the Carmack Keynote @ the Oculus Connect conference). It's also rendering two viewpoints which is more demanding.
I definitely believe that the majority of the tweaking will be on Frontier to do. If they can just improve the star port performance then we'll be golden.
I also have to admit that I really can't see much difference in the cockpit of my sidewinder on high vs low settings.. Other than the lovely dynamic shadows!
Fwiw it's a lot smoother generally than it used to be on my 670.
have you overclocked your 970 yet?
I read that, certainly the MSI 970's at any rate, are often capable of hitting 1500mhz when on boost, which takes them right into GTX780Ti territory.
not bad for a £280 graphics card.
Its either optimization issues or else the star ports are demanding on the CPU. FPS in the Wyrd station is about 45fps on my monitor running at 2560x1080. That's on a GTX 780. Wyrd is extremely juddery on the DK1.
ha ha , that's where that 980 would come in very handy , yes?
I still think a 980 is "excessive" for that kind of frame rate. My GTX 780 can push well over 60fps on just about every other game out there, yet struggles at 45fps in stations.
I personally feel the poor fps in stations is either down to needing more optimizations, or CPU issues.
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Ha
indeed. That earlier conversation was about SLI 970 vs a SLI 980s to be fair though. It's still a pretty baffling performance problem, when you consider that the card can mange Crysis 3 on high without issue though.
TThere isn't really that much going on in those stations! I wonder of they could optimise level of detail specifically for the rift? Given the low resolution, you could probably get away with culling details at a closer point than usual at 1080p..
People comparing graphics cards reminds me a little of the Xbox one and PS4 threads. Sometimes posters try to convince others theirs is the 'best'. There is probably no 'right' or 'wrong' choice because everyone's requirements/circumstances are different.
Personally if I was loaded and wanted the card with the highest performance IMHO it's the 980. But value for money IMHO it's the 970. That's before even bringing AMD into the equation, then there is SLI, overclocking .........
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...-gtx-980-performance-for-a-fraction-the-price
Personally if I was loaded and wanted the card with the highest performance IMHO it's the 980. But value for money IMHO it's the 970. That's before even bringing AMD into the equation, then there is SLI, overclocking .........
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...-gtx-980-performance-for-a-fraction-the-price
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People comparing graphics cards reminds me a little of the Xbox one and PS4 threads. Sometimes posters try to convince others theirs is the 'best'. There is probably no 'right' or 'wrong' choice because everyone's requirements/circumstances are different.
Personally if I was loaded and wanted the card with the highest performance IMHO it's the 980. But value for money IMHO it's the 970. That's before even bringing AMD into the equation, then there is overclocking .........
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...-gtx-980-performance-for-a-fraction-the-price
Isn't it a little different to comparing consoles? With those platforms you are stuck with what you have got. It's like choosing which car to buy.
With PC's it's more like modding your car, and trying to figure out which engine or component would give you the best performance boost for what you are able to spend.
Lol yes your analogy is better. I guess I was thinking more of the sentiment behind the posts rather than the choice of topic.
The hippie in me thinks, if they are happy with their choice why would I try to convince them different - even if they are wrong
(that last bit was a joke, please don't flame me)
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The hippie in me thinks, if they are happy with their choice why would I try to convince them different - even if they are wrong
(that last bit was a joke, please don't flame me)
The hippie in me thinks that in our society people are rarely happy with what they have, and always want more, more, more!
The hippie in me thinks that in our society people are rarely happy with what they have, and always want more, more, more!
There is no hippie in me. I killed him when I started working for a bank.