ED and the Oculus Rift DK1 Discussion Thread

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Ryder35

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jontycampbell said:
WHAT? Eh?

On the can't see your hands thing, if you want to press a button on the base of the joystick or Kb, you're doing it blind, and if you lift the OR onto you're forehead to see the stick you're flying blind in mid combat. Perhaps a button on the side of the OR could flip the screens a quarter turn like a shutter so you can see where the buttons are?

I would have to use voice commands I guess (remember the rubbish GameVoice? I had that).
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If you have a proper HOTAS such as the Warthog you do not currently need the keyboard for anything. HOTAS are designed to be used eyes off and it works just fine
 

Obsidian Ant

Obsidian Ant
jontycampbell said:
Just had a look at the warthog. Afraid my old sidewinder 2 precision force feedback has more buttons.

I will look into voice controls and a pedal board.
Or I could play conventionally with three monitors and fore, aft, port, starboard retro mock 2D hud view, I dunno.

Yet to try the OR, but could make me seasick who knows?

Awaiting the 1.8 build of Oolite with excitement, as I've 1.7 and virtually all the OXP's!

I'm 'Dangerous' now with 760 kills. Woot.
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Nice going! :)

About the Rift, I get pretty badly motion sick with it...and most demos and games I can't use for more than a few minutes.

However, when it comes to flying in space it is totally different for me - I don't get any motion sickness at all. I'm mostly ok in flight sims as well. For me at least, a lot of the motion sickness seems to come when moving along the ground. My eyes tell me I am moving, but my body says it's not.

Being in a cockpit away from the ground alleviates this, as your immediate environment is moving with you, and space is on the 'outside'. Seems to be enough to trick my brain into thinking everything is ok. :)
 

edguy

edguy
I don't get any motion sickness what so ever with ED.

I do find it almost impossible to read the text on a OR especially the left nav panel when selecting a destination; have to bear in mind both ED and OR are still in development.

Hopefully the DK2 will make things a little clearer and possibly the ED dev team may be able to make a few tweaks here and there.
 

edguy

edguy
Or get yourself one of these bad boys :p

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KING5TON said:
As for drinking and stuff I assume that when you drink while playing E: D currently that you don't stare at the screen at all times but look at your drink before picking it up. You can do that with the rift:- lift the rift up, take a drink, lower it back down. It's not screwed on.
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Macca

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Oculus Rift one eye

Hi there ,
I have a question regarding the oculus.
How does it look and work in ED for persons with one eye working?
Could anyone using the rift with this game make such an experiment?
I'm one eyed and am curious whether it would make sense to get such a device in the future.
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Bewilderbeest

Bewilderbeest
Macca said:
Hi there ,
I have a question regarding the oculus.
How does it look and work in ED for persons with one eye working?
Could anyone using the rift with this game make such an experiment?
I'm one eyed and am curious whether it would make sense to get such a device in the future.
M
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If you don't benefit from the stereoscopic effect, then something which tracks head movement is going to be a better overall experience. The Rift is lovely, but you sacrifice a lot of spacial resolution to gain that perception of depth.

Maybe get TrackIR, or the EDTracker from pocketmoon/brumster ?
 

Rhaedas

Rhaedas
The plus of the Rift is that your head movements and what you see are mirrored, so you look back, and that's where you see in the game. Whereas tracking devices are exaggerated motions, they give you the scope of seeing all places, but not quite the same "feeling" of being there. But I agree that the Rift is a major investment if you're not going to get the full stereoscopic effect. The other solutions might be the best bet, dollar for dollar.
 

Macca

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I do have and use TrackIR for flight sims like Il2 series or Rise of Flight and that works like a charm. I am looking for something that would naturally emulate head movements exactly due to the over reactions to head movements when employing TIR.
Maybe in some time the Oculus could get a wee cheaper ;) and maybe my better half should play ED so that sb would make full use of it.;)

It is good news that the image is not distorted like in some 3D tv screens.
 

natte hond

natte hond
Macca said:
am curious whether it would make sense to get such a device in the future.
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their also researching devices that will add hands to your VR environment.
such as leapmotion.
in that case is makes perfect sense.

I suspect it'll be very cumbersome for you.
its likely the ocr will show things in one eye before the other.
same as what's happening the natural way.
your probably used to compensate this by turning your head more often than average.
but with a weight on your head this could be very uncomfortable.
 

Shepard

Shepard
natte hond said:
their also researching devices that will add hands to your VR environment.
such as leapmotion.
in that case is makes perfect sense.

I suspect it'll be very cumbersome for you.
its likely the ocr will show things in one eye before the other.
same as what's happening the natural way.
your probably used to compensate this by turning your head more often than average.
but with a weight on your head this could be very uncomfortable.
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Leapmotion is horrid. I've had it for a day, then returned. Unless its some special leapmotion created game it will be a nightmare to set it up and even then you'd wish you never touched it.
 

Lockheart

Lockheart
edguy said:
I don't get any motion sickness what so ever with ED.

I do find it almost impossible to read the text on a OR especially the left nav panel when selecting a destination; have to bear in mind both ED and OR are still in development.

Hopefully the DK2 will make things a little clearer and possibly the ED dev team may be able to make a few tweaks here and there.
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That's the only complaint I have with the Rift. Trading is impossible while in the Rift so I have to change the graphic setting and switch off The Rift before being able to read anything as for navigating I know it so well now I can pretty much guess which destination is being displayed (still about a 90% success rate so it is pretty immersion breaking)

No sickness with me either though I find the handling is a bit more slidey a la Star Citizen. Did the latest updates tweak handling or is that just my experience whilst in the Rift?

Will study further.
 

Aldric

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I have a DK2 on order but i am curious, do you have to lift the OR off your head to do anything on the keyboard ? and what if any disadvantages are there compared to using track IR 5 as i currently do ?

Will it be worth the cost buying a 3d TV or monitor as well as the OR for ED ?
 
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