My world is unaffected.
It's a big achievement to reach those places.
It's a wonderful gesture from FD. And it's simply wrong. The first discovery tag is: got there and returned home first. Coming home is as much part of the challenge than getting there.
If something can't be done in-game FD shouldn't play around it. Simple. It's cheating or exploiting (mostly from FD). It's wrong. Simply wrong.
Worrying about a few system tags with millions of systems still unexplored? I don't care. I don't compete with other players nor do I care about their status, achievements and how they got them. If someone finds a ch that makes their game play more enjoyable then more power to them. Worrying about how others play the game by their own fairness standards is way overdone on this forum.
My world is unaffected.
I'm just pointing out that the discovered by tags may quite easily have been obtained by people that made their own way back...
Not true...you posted. Thus....affected.
There is a way back from that cluster - however some may class it as a "glitch". Dr Kaii demonstrates how to do it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apYNwGjwcB0&t=0s
I don't have a horse in this race but I think it's pretty crap of FD to arbitrarily gift people achievements that are simply not possible to achieve without outside help from the developer. That just urinates all over the players that spent time and effort getting these achievements the legit way by using only what is in-game. I guess they shouldn't bother now and should instead just pull out a beggers tin, shoot off an email to Frontier support and go, "Pwease gift me this achievement senpai. Pwetty pwease."They went to great lengths to organize this expedition and to find a way there. They went accepting that it would be a one way mission, without any expectation that FD would help them out in any way beyond perhaps recognition in a newsletter, or perhaps a decal like happened with Distant Worlds.
That FD decided to do this i think was a wonderful gesture. Their names will now remain there as the first to reach those systems, a wonderful achievement.
They didn't actually come back from those systems though - FD God modded them back. If jump ranges are further increased some day then the guy/gal who makes it there and actually comes back from the trip via playing the game (hilarious concept, I know. Actually playing the game to get an in-game achievement - preposterous!) then they deserve to tag those systems, they actually did the full slog rather than half-there, other half was gifted by the devs.In the future, FD might increase jump ranges or give us other ways to get to that cluster. Would be a shame if those who came later could tag the systems that others had already been to and scanned.
I presume it bothers him because FD are arbitrarily cheating/bypassing their own exploration mechanic. Literally moving the goal posts on a whim. Perhaps FD should just change the way rescanning after having died works instead of gifting this to players that have not yet earned it the legit way.Also, small side note, but once you have a scanned an object/system, and died, you can't go back and rescan it, because its already known to you. So, should it, in future, become possible to get there and come back, they would not be able to try and be the first to tag what they first discovered.
At the end of the day, if it bothers you so much, why were you not on this expedition in the first place?
Hey Brett C, please update this thread with rumor control when resolved. lol
Wait so before we all start to get rather heated about this - was it actually the case that FDEV moved one or two folks back to where they could return from the journey? Or was it done in a ship by 'utilising' the two-Supercharges trick?
Can someone tell me what's going on?
When getting stuck in most online games, support will usually move you to safety. The issue here isn't so much getting stuck, but rather intentionally getting stuck. Whilst everyone on the Distant Stars expedition should have been well aware it was likely a one way trip, in many other cases, it's all to easy to get unintentionally stuck inside a system.
I'm not saying whether or not Frontier should actually step in and help, just that in other online games when people get trapped due to game mechanics - support will usually help out. So in this case, isn't it really a question of whether Frontier should be helping people that intentionally got stuck?
(Assuming Frontier actually did move them in this case - as there are in-game ways to get back).
Awaiting any certainty, lets argue the principle of the matter.That FD decided to do this i think was a wonderful gesture. Their names will now remain there as the first to reach those systems, a wonderful achievement.
In the future, FD might increase jump ranges or give us other ways to get to that cluster. Would be a shame if those who came later could tag the systems that others had already been to and scanned.
2 things. I died a some time ago, but had some ELWs noted in me notebook. I went back and could scan them and sell them and they now got my tag.Also, small side note, but once you have a scanned an object/system, and died, you can't go back and rescan it, because its already known to you. So, should it, in future, become possible to get there and come back, they would not be able to try and be the first to tag what they first discovered.
Well, I for one, am working off the OP specifically stating he asked on the Distant Stars discord and was told [so he claims] that Frontier has moved CMDRs to a location from which they can return under their own steam. It could all be a harmless mistake on Support's part mind you....
You can do the 219 ly jump twice there and back, but you can't do the 219 ly jump, then go explore the cluster and then jump back as you would have used the super charge on first jump in side the cluster you can't save super charge. There is no neutron stars there to super charge in the cluster. You can scan one system in cluster and then travel back, but not go through multiple system and then jump back.
What about the second and first nostril's worlds?My world is unaffected.