News Elite Dangerous: Arena Removal From Sale

Overwatch regularly has 5-10 minute waits for games but they let you into a skirmish mode so you actually have something to do. Why not have a free fly mode where you can learn the maps and pew at other waiting players with no consequences?
 

Harbinger

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As the OP states existing Arena owners will still be able to play it but as Frontier have now removed the product from Steam it does seem to imply that any further development of Arena/CQC is dead in the water seeing as Arena only owners will not be able to get any further client updates. They could of course push out further updates directly via the launcher but I think it's pretty unlikely any further updates will be forthcoming.
 
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good. this was nothing but a time suck for developers and a mistake from day 1. Not sure why anyone thought this was a viable option when wing commander did the same thing like a decade ago and it sucked just as hard while being shunned just as appropriately by the community. It's a horrid concept that results in a rare situation where nearly all of the playerbase shares the same opinion.
 
Any chance that we'll ever be able to queue for CQC from the main game? This seems fundamentally similar to the new multicrew lobby.

The major reason I don't play more CQC is that waiting in the CQC lobby for a game is as dull as a staring at a box of nails. If I could queue from my ship while playing the main game, I'd be queued for CQC all the time.

I used to play another game (related to your avatar oddly enough) where that was exactly how arena queuing worked. The arena itself was an atrocious failfest but the queuing method did in fact work fine.
 
Now the question is: when will FD pull the plug and finally let CQC go to software heaven? It is quite obvious to anyone that it was a total failure. FD managed to reuse graphic assets, which is good (less money wasted), now it's time to stop wasting human resources and server space.
 
I thought CQC had loads of potential, but I don't know if FD ever had/have the time/money/patience to fulfil it.

Being able to meet people in-game and challenge them to a game of CQC would have been great. As would the option to take your main-game ships into CQC games (even if it isn't fair). Boosting the CQC rewards so they're not so trivial (would be very handy for those who die without rebuy). Allow player faction v player faction CQC challenges & tournaments. Maintain system/regional/galactic leaderboards, make CQC players into main-game sports stars. Add a race-mode through checkpoints, with force-shell weapons. Add more varied scenery (planetary surface maps). Add assault/defence modes (Defend the Scarabs vs Hunt the Scarabs etc.)
 
Just make it free. Or integrate it into the actual game. Or, you can let anyone get an Elite account for free but only be able to go into the Arena from the main menu. It should entice people to get the game, no?
 
On one hand, the news wasn't unexpected - CQC was never very popular and if dropping Arena from Steam will save Frontier a few dollars, then that's a few dollars that can be used elsewhere.

On the other hand, it's unfortunate that there doesn't seem to have been any investment in CQC since its launch. Considerable expense was required to create it, and all that went to waste because it was hamstrung by bad matchmaking. As others have pointed out, all it would take is some bots and better matchmaking and it would already be a far superior game to what it is now (practically unplayable).
 
Now if it would disappear from the Status menu in the cockpit in the main game it would be perfect!

I agree, have some rep. It should never have been there in the first place.
Makes me wonder if in 12/15 months time Multi Crew will be going down the same road :rolleyes:
 
Now if it would disappear from the Status menu in the cockpit in the main game it would be perfect!

I agree, have some rep. It should never have been there in the first place.

Double-agree.
I'm very chilled in-game: pirates, griefers, random neutron star jets, server crashes, all meh... but my OCD gets triggered whenever I see that 0% CQC stat ;)

FDev probably won't remove it though, as those that did play deserve to see their accomplishments. Best hope is they wrap CQC into the main game somehow, which just made me worried 2.4 is "CQC 2.0".
 
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I thought CQC had loads of potential, but I don't know if FD ever had/have the time/money/patience to fulfil it.

Being able to meet people in-game and challenge them to a game of CQC would have been great. As would the option to take your main-game ships into CQC games (even if it isn't fair). Boosting the CQC rewards so they're not so trivial (would be very handy for those who die without rebuy). Allow player faction v player faction CQC challenges & tournaments. Maintain system/regional/galactic leaderboards, make CQC players into main-game sports stars. Add a race-mode through checkpoints, with force-shell weapons. Add more varied scenery (planetary surface maps). Add assault/defence modes (Defend the Scarabs vs Hunt the Scarabs etc.)

All of these ideas are great. The virtual fights with your current ships might be unfair, but they would've been valuable and inexpensive lessons.

The problem we have with our fighter club ladder is that we have to crawl our way towards the same physical location.

It could've been great.
 
The lobbies are empty because there's not enough active players... so to fill the lobbies add AI bots and also make it playable while in the main-game.

I think this is a good idea. I'd like a way to hone my (semi-incompetent) combat skills without having to risk my ship. In theory, CGC should a safe place to do this but without enough players it makes joining matches difficult, if not impossible. Personally, I'd like to train only against bots.
 
People have issues getting together for so much as a cup of tea in the same location. I don't think requiring in-game organisation of any kind to participate in CQC will work if we can't even do it now clicking a button in the menu.

Just leave it as a menu game where it is now, and at best allow players to queue up for participation while docked. Then if you cannot improve matchmaking through networking, just give us the damn bots guys...surely SJA will appreciate a second breed of minion?
 
I'm not surprised in the least--as I'm sure no one here will be either.

CQC/Arena was a marketing gimmick to attract the XB1 crowd. Now that those numbers are either in decline or stagnated, there's no reason to keep that sinking ship around. Pull the plug, Frontier, as it's obvious you had no intention of repairing it anyway.
 
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