Elite Dangerous Community Schedule W/C 28 June 2021
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They only announced five updates - and a timeline they already missed. I can't imagine that they're going to somehow deliver something they haven't promised when they can't even deliver something they did promise.
I’m so excited I’m going to print out the update / patch notes and take them with me to the seaside to read over a nice plate of fish and chips and ice cream.
if what you say is true then the only thing they could say on Wednesday is thanks we are shutting the servers off..... how would that save the company
A few more weeks of this and I think I might try open I never clicked that button before
Well, virtually all of my favourite Elite Dangerous content creators are hardly putting out any Elite content. They are doing more SC, NMS, MsFS etc.
I have to admit that even my patience is wearing thin. What had been absolute torture when contemplating the wait for console release has become indifference.
I'm about at the point where I'm going to make a point of not wasting my time trying to follow any Frontier "communication" and info.
I'll keep playing it as long as I enjoy it and I probably will get Odyssey at console release, but it will be with about as much excitement as buying a paint job for my SRV would generate.
In addition, all I have to say is. "Meh!"
And good job Frontier, well done, pat yourselves on the back.
The product owners are the ones responsible for ensuring a Dev team is building the right thing and meeting the stakeholder needs (including customers). Why don't we also hear from them on the future of Elite instead of the Devs or CMs who don't write or prioritize the requirements?
You really need to start telling us what comes after Odyssey is has completed release as you already indicated we aren't getting much more in Odyssey itself, including the main things we wanted from "space legs" to begin with like ship interiors. We just hope all that is now broken with planets and UI will be fixed by the time it's done and VR will be allowed to work even if basic implementation. And don't nerf the game to support last gen consoles - it is already a waste of time and money to develop any new content for PS4 and Xbone.
Your product owners should live and breathe the game and ensure Dev is always building the right thing to truly be successful - with a game like Elite that means they should have hundreds or thousands of hours in-game doing ALL the activities, interact with the community as a dedicated player, and be passionate about the original vision of Elite that so many commanders have dedicated their second lives to for so many years.
After years we still don't have quick-wins like for example a handful of in-game racing assets or few crafted courses with actual timers and leaderboards. The marketing and cosmetic monetization potential of a quick-win driver like that is huge and totally over-looked for all this time among many other such low hanging fruit. It hurts my heart - these types of community desired features can be sold executives if you can show them the value it will bring overall to the franchise and you can deliver them in much smaller more organic and agile ways without large teams.
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You really need to start telling us what comes after Odyssey is has completed release as you already indicated we aren't getting much more in Odyssey itself, including the main things we wanted from "space legs" to begin with like ship interiors. We just hope all that is now broken with planets and UI will be fixed by the time it's done and VR will be allowed to work even if basic implementation. And don't nerf the game to support last gen consoles - it is already a waste of time and money to develop any new content for PS4 and Xbone.
Your product owners should live and breathe the game and ensure Dev is always building the right thing to truly be successful - with a game like Elite that means they should have hundreds or thousands of hours in-game doing ALL the activities, interact with the community as a dedicated player, and be passionate about the original vision of Elite that so many commanders have dedicated their second lives to for so many years.
After years we still don't have quick-wins like for example a handful of in-game racing assets or few crafted courses with actual timers and leaderboards. The marketing and cosmetic monetization potential of a quick-win driver like that is huge and totally over-looked for all this time among many other such low hanging fruit. It hurts my heart - these types of community desired features can be sold executives if you can show them the value it will bring overall to the franchise and you can deliver them in much smaller more organic and agile ways without large teams.
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Hold them accountable? Hehe, who are you exactly ?
Every post of yours on this thread has come across as you being entitled. You make demands like you're Braben's boss or something.
Writing posts like a headmaster to a pupil. I think you have an inflated opinion of what you think Frontier Developments owes you.
And you'd do well to remember that you don't speak for the community.
I see people on here writing things like 'the majority of the community'.. but what is this based on? Which poll? What are your stats?
What they really mean is a few other loud voices on this forum from people with a similar self-entitled opinions as them.
The ED playerbase far, far outnumbers the people on this forum.
The negative opinions get the most air time here and because of that, this has become quite a toxic place.
I understand the dissatisfaction with certain areas of Odyssey but it's getting ridiculous when people start making demands of the Devs as if they are shareholders. You're an already paid customer, that's it. Frontier can listen to players suggestions but they are under no obligation to heed any of them. What you think happens to the company because you didn't get listened to is as irrelevant as it is preposterous.
The elephant in the room is Frontier putting on public display employees who are not fully engaged with its community for whatever reason. . It would have been much cheaper and more effective for fdev to sub contract an intermediary group of well known content creators to act as a negotiating buffer group.
Thats communication, these people understand the community, they understand the game, and know what is needed.
If ANY dev or CM cannot keep a promise then that promise should not be spoken of.
The content creators are the public coffee lounge of your community , alienating them is serving only to damage frontier’s image and confidence. When they start to stream competitor games that provide the features that this community have pleaded for, it’s the star of the very steep slippery slope of players actually starting to play these competitor games.
How much further would you like to see your share value drop.?
Take decisive action immediately and publish your intentions publicly by someone that your community trusts and respects.
Thats communication, these people understand the community, they understand the game, and know what is needed.
If ANY dev or CM cannot keep a promise then that promise should not be spoken of.
The content creators are the public coffee lounge of your community , alienating them is serving only to damage frontier’s image and confidence. When they start to stream competitor games that provide the features that this community have pleaded for, it’s the star of the very steep slippery slope of players actually starting to play these competitor games.
How much further would you like to see your share value drop.?
Take decisive action immediately and publish your intentions publicly by someone that your community trusts and respects.
Then you're not looking at the right content creators
I'll be streaming ED:O on Thursday after the patch And I'm not feeling alienated at all. Can't speak for others though. Either way, the game can survive without it's YouTubers.
I hope so Rusty, I really do I have subbed lots of Elite Dangerous streamers over the years. Never have I seen so much despondency and apathy.
Its True that I have never even heard you swear in your streams, let alone be toxic.
Its True that I have never even heard you swear in your streams, let alone be toxic.
Then you're not looking at the right content creators
And I'm not feeling alienated at all. Can't speak for others though. Either way, the game can survive without it's YouTubers.
Update 5? I want to believe...
It's interesting to see the complete lack of clarification. Already before Elite launched in 2014 Braben posted how FD needed to improve communication and interact more with the community. With the EDO debacle it was brought up yet again, after I don't know how many times.
Last week: delayed patch, 'announced' as a PS in another post. No reason given.
This week: Dev stream (probably?) canceled (delayed?), no communication, clarification or explanation.
It is almost as if the new Communication Style is just Sally giving happy "thanks for mentioning it, I will definitely pass it along, please ticket it so I can speed it along!" posts but nothing of any real substance.
If FD doesn't want to improve communication just at least communicate that properly.
Last week: delayed patch, 'announced' as a PS in another post. No reason given.
This week: Dev stream (probably?) canceled (delayed?), no communication, clarification or explanation.
It is almost as if the new Communication Style is just Sally giving happy "thanks for mentioning it, I will definitely pass it along, please ticket it so I can speed it along!" posts but nothing of any real substance.
If FD doesn't want to improve communication just at least communicate that properly.
"You can't handle the truth!"
“We must ask ourselves…are they really a hoax? Are we truly alone? Or are we being lied to?”
Light placation will only work short term. Unless thats coupled with results it will Soon™ make things worse rather than better.It's interesting to see the complete lack of clarification. Already before Elite launched in 2014 Braben posted how FD needed to improve communication and interact more with the community. With the EDO debacle it was brought up yet again, after I don't know how many times.
Last week: delayed patch, 'announced' as a PS in another post. No reason given.
This week: Dev stream (probably?) canceled (delayed?), no communication, clarification or explanation.
It is almost as if the new Communication Style is just Sally giving happy "thanks for mentioning it, I will definitely pass it along, please ticket it so I can speed it along!" posts but nothing of any real substance.
If FD doesn't want to improve communication just at least communicate that properly.