ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Horizons Set to Land for All Commanders

[Drelthar]

As a Horizons owner and Beta Backer, not only do I not have a problem with this, I have in fact said in the past this has been needed to be done. the problem with having Horizons as a system was that the dev team was almost duplicating their efforts by having to develop any given mechanic with two design philosophies in mind, one WITH Horizons and one WITHOUT. An example of this is the fact that synthesis material was for a while, only on planetary surfaces and subsequently synthesis was only available to Horizons' owners. Which meant in a fight between a Horizon's cmdr and a Non Horizon's cmdr, one could reload in the middle of a fight, the other cannot. Now the fix for this at the time was add synth materials to asteroid belts and mining rings, which was good. It also meant explorers with dead srvs could synth, life support should they need to.

More over other gameplay mandates for "core gameplay" had to be limited in scope and planets basically were left out because again, planets are not "core" to the game.

By merging Horizons, planetary surfaces of other horizons limited features can be included in the core gameplay loops and functions. Developed more as a holistic scope. My hope is that Fdev isn't going to simply repeat this mistake with Oddysey.

My hope is that they do repeat that "mistake" because if they don't, then it will mean that Odyssey is entirely disconnected from the rest of the game. In order to avoid the "mistake" - they'd have to make it so you can't earn anything interesting that translates into the space ship flying part of the game, and vice versa. That would be sad.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Yes and I think Michael said that ED with the LEP will start to become profitable after the 3rd DLC.

It also seems to me that at one time Frontier had said that there would be small specific DLCs for LEP owners.

We both know that isn't going to happen now dude.

The uproar would be huge. People without a LEP are only growing because you know, it's not available. At this point you're asking for a disaster with LEP-exclusive DLC.

Skins? Sure. Actual content? Forget it LOL.

 

[Exeider]

My hope is that they do repeat that "mistake" because if they don't, then it will mean that Odyssey is entirely disconnected from the rest of the game. In order to avoid the "mistake" - they'd have to make it so you can't earn anything interesting that translates into the space ship flying part of the game, and vice versa. That would be sad.

Um....ok. that mistake i described is exactly what you described, Horizons being optional meant that it was disconnected, developed with a different mandate then the rest of the game.

So asking for them to repeat it is asking them to create Oddysey disconnected like horizons was.

So you seem to be contradicting yourself and im not sure what youre asking for.

 

[Patrick_68000]

We both know that isn't going to happen now dude.

The uproar would be huge. People without a LEP are only growing because you know, it's not available. At this point you're asking for a disaster with LEP-exclusive DLC.

Skins? Sure. Actual content? Forget it LOL.

Yes I know.

 

[Bantha]

Great move from Frontier.

I bought Horizons when it came out (backed the original and played since 2014). And I’ve more than had my money’s worth. I don’t care that others can now get it for free.

Now my more casual friends will be brought up to date, and be on parity with me. Planetary landings, engineers et al.

Frontier now don’t have to make updates to the base game only. This is a very sensible move!

Good work!

 

[Neutronium]

Pro-tip: Get Odyssey for free in a few years, just before the landing on Earth-like worlds expansion is released!

Yes and if this happens Its going to feel like Frontier is spitting on my LEP. I already feel tiny droplets of it (hope at least covid-19 free lol )
Yes I know the counter-argument about having access to Horizons since 5 years ago..

 

[amigacooke]

This could be seen a long way out and Frontier have been virtually giving away Elite Dangerous and Horizons in Steam sales for quite some time.

 

[Patrick_68000]

This could be seen a long way out and Frontier have been virtually giving away Elite Dangerous and Horizons in Steam sales for quite some time.

Yes there were already unjustified reasons to complain about the price differences on the sales over the years.

 

[SCiARA]

Yes I know the counter-argument about having access to Horizons since 5 years ago..

would be interesting to get a response to it
I don't really understand how anyone could begrudge an old game expansion being included in the older base game to simplify future expansions, without this the potential is an diminishing player base for each expansion with each one needing its own team to develop
the game would die a slow death

 

[Neutronium]

would be interesting to get a response to it
I don't really understand how anyone could begrudge...

Had it cost me 35£ as some few lucky ones did I wouldn't begrudge. But it cost me 120£ so I feel a bitter taste in my mouth. A few paintjobs can't help me to get rid off it sorry.

 

[Neutronium]

If everyone is getting access to all expansions regardless of having bought a LEP, then what the LEP actually is, is: a subscription to some paintjobs at random intervals.

That is where you get it wrong: A LEP actually gives you access to new paid content at its launch date whereas someone with the base game only will eventually get access to this particular paid content a few years down the line. You pay for the ability to get every new paid content at the time of its release.
Bad it seems we paid way too much for this: 120£. Some paid 35£

 

[SCiARA]

you paid that to have instant access to the game and all dlc which you will get
would you have been content not paying that and holding out all these years on a chance that it might have been released for free?

 

[Neutronium]

would you have been content not paying that and holding out all these years on a chance that it might have been released for free?

For 120£ yes. For 35£ no.

 

[Patrick_68000]

would be interesting to get a response to it
I don't really understand how anyone could begrudge an old game expansion being included in the older base game to simplify future expansions, without this the potential is an diminishing player base for each expansion with each one needing its own team to develop
the game would die a slow death

Yes, the homogeneity is mandatory.

 

[SCiARA]

For 120£ yes. For 35£ no.

fair enough
I still feel this move will make the game better though and through that, ultimately, you will benefit
but then I didn't pay £120, or £35 for that matter, or maybe I did? I genuinely don't know is there a way of finding out on xbox?

 

[aRJay]

Had it cost me 35£ as some few lucky ones did I wouldn't begrudge. But it cost me 120£ so I feel a bitter taste in my mouth. A few paintjobs can't help me to get rid off it sorry.

It is unfortunate that you were so enthusiastic about the game that you were prepared to pay For Horizons to play it immediately rather than wait several years for it to become free with the base game.
However all those years ago did anyone other than Nostradamus know that this was going to happen?

 

[eqinox]

A paint job for those who bought Horizons within a year or so is a little lame and takes minimum effort from Frontier.

Then again the cosmetics for ED are a little uninspired overall. Here’s hoping Odyssey brings something worthwhile to the equation.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

The reduced prices allowed me to gift Elite to my friends. They're not complaining...

 

[Rubbernuke]

People can have Horizons for free, but need to write an ED based haiku of sufficient quality.

 

[CMDR MRMAURICE]

Your consideration is noted, despite it being off-topic.

Have a nice day!

Are you kidding? I was answering you lol... Your original comment was off topic... jeez