Elite Dangerous now on Steam

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They could've chosen to just release it on Steam and given us nothing to complain about by either having the keys ready, or making sure we had a statement more useful than "We're looking into it".

Yeah, because one thing is plain when reading these forums: people don't like complaining, and don't look for things to complain about. (The last statement was sarcasm, because it doesn't apparently come across well in text.)

It wouldn't have mattered if they'd given everyone a steam key and a free pony, you'd have threads saying "only ONE key! OMG ripoff" and "A frikkin pony? David Barben is crook! I want a UNICRON!"

Poor planning and/or gross negligence got this thread where it is today, whether it was malicious or not isn't actually relevant to the discussion.

"Gross negligence"? Overreact much? They haven't killed someone in a botched surgery, steered a passenger liner into some rocks trying to impress some women on the shoreline, or caused a global financial meltdown.

They put a game on sale in Steam in response to people's pleas. Nice of them to listen to people, especially when they were selling decent numbers without it. Nobody made a big fuss about getting a key until after the game was on Steam. Anyway, they are a developer who worked for publishers exclusively until this game's release, and are learning as they go, so making a few little mistakes is par for the course.

A crowd of histrionic crybabies making mountains out of molehills and storms in teacups don't change the fact that this isn't a big deal, and is easily dealt with after they have slept off their roast lamb dinners, recovered from the overload of chocolate eggs/bunnies/Jesuses/Brians/etc, and finished attending boring church services.
 
Yeah, because one thing is plain when reading these forums: people don't like complaining, and don't look for things to complain about. (The last statement was sarcasm, because it doesn't apparently come across well in text.)

It wouldn't have mattered if they'd given everyone a steam key and a free pony, you'd have threads saying "only ONE key! OMG ripoff" and "A frikkin pony? David Barben is crook! I want a UNICRON!"



"Gross negligence"? Overreact much? They haven't killed someone in a botched surgery, steered a passenger liner into some rocks trying to impress some women on the shoreline, or caused a global financial meltdown.

They put a game on sale in Steam in response to people's pleas. Nice of them to listen to people, especially when they were selling decent numbers without it. Nobody made a big fuss about getting a key until after the game was on Steam. Anyway, they are a developer who worked for publishers exclusively until this game's release, and are learning as they go, so making a few little mistakes is par for the course.

A crowd of histrionic crybabies making mountains out of molehills and storms in teacups don't change the fact that this isn't a big deal, and is easily dealt with after they have slept off their roast lamb dinners, recovered from the overload of chocolate eggs/bunnies/Jesuses/Brians/etc, and finished attending boring church services.


They put the game on Steam in response to people's pleas? What are you smoking? They put it on Steam to increase profit without a single thought about "people" or their "pleas". FD's only master or consideration is it's shareholders and their profit.

Isn't a big deal? LMAO, dude, you're so far off base it's hilarious. This is a BIG deal, look at this thread, the rest of the internet, reddit, Steam and more. Not a big deal, ok.

Whoever is making these decisions (David I'd bet) is so out of touch with their customers it's amazing. David is growing his publishing house quite well though, good for his retirement, not so good for gamers.
 
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That's about the gist of your post, isn't it? The amount of substance in it, I mean? You have nothing to say, and you say it poorly.

Oh sorry, you are putting up drafts, I'll wait for the full post before judging.



We may differ on our definitions of a "big deal". If the volume of internet comments is the primary signifier, then the colour of a dress in a picture is of far more importance. And don't get me started on Kim Kardashian's buttocks - earth-shaking, apparently.
 
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There were a few threads on this subject, going as far back as 2012. As for the decision having to be made that far back, why?

Well maybe, I saw maybe one or two topics on this here. And I`m sure its a longer process when you make a deal with Steam, but I`m not a expert.
 
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams nor can Elite backers get Steam keys :p

This is gonna be so (some what pathetically) funny when Frontier and Steam both say - "yeah, no biggy, whatever move over"

Lolz will be had
 
I was hoping beyond hope that David and would break the mold (like his sales speeches) and NOT be just like every other greedy corporate gaming company out there. I was hoping to throw my money at a company that wasn't the role model for a EA want to be, to show greedy corporate dinks that being a tool doesn't always mean the most profit and being different, read: give a crap about your customers, could be MORE PROFITABLE than following EA's playbook. Unfortunately, as seen with this Steaming pile of Steam blunder and others, David is not only following the "good ol' boy" corporate playbook, he's writing some new plays himself.

Want to know why Steam is the biggest, most profitable PC gaming thing going? Because they broke the EA mold David, they wrote their own rules and put their customers in the forefront. This "afterthought", money first and customers a distant second is going to be the death of ED.

Cast your narrow minded nets a little deeper and wider David, break the EA rule book and you'll real in MUCH more fish than you are now. You may think you're catching a lot of fish, and you are, but, you're missing so much more you could have caught.

What a shame. ED could have been so much more, if only they had decided to not try and be a new EA, Comcast or whatever other D-bag greedy corporate entity you can think of. ED will go down as a good game that could have been so much more if David wasn't so narrowly focused on the one fish he is after, while the rest of the school of fish swim right past him.
 
I would just like to point out something........

Certain EA games I bought on Steam? Origin picked up I had them and provided them for me free of charge on my Origin account (which honestly, the only reason installed the stupid thing was for Battlefield 3... which I regretted later) But honestly, that and the free Dead Space game was what prompted me to return the favor and give Titanfall a chance. I never forget favors game developers do me.

EA.... the symbol of everything anti-consumer in the industry, did me a solid and gave me games I bought from them on their own platform for no extra charge. If only I could cross platform a bit more and get my digital media tossed over to consoles free as well, I might consider picking up consoles again. (I really hoped the Steam Box would take off for this reason)

So yah.... a game I bought transferred over to a game manager/platform I prefer? Really a no brainer.

I'm in no hurry myself - just as long as it's done: I won't forget it.
 
I would just like to point out something........

Certain EA games I bought on Steam? Origin picked up I had them and provided them for me free of charge on my Origin account (which honestly, the only reason installed the stupid thing was for Battlefield 3... which I regretted later) But honestly, that and the free Dead Space game was what prompted me to return the favor and give Titanfall a chance. I never forget favors game developers do me.

EA.... the symbol of everything anti-consumer in the industry, did me a solid and gave me games I bought from them on their own platform for no extra charge. If only I could cross platform a bit more and get my digital media tossed over to consoles free as well, I might consider picking up consoles again. (I really hoped the Steam Box would take off for this reason)

So yah.... a game I bought transferred over to a game manager/platform I prefer? Really a no brainer.

I'm in no hurry myself - just as long as it's done: I won't forget it.

I agree, and in my opinion, EA is really turning the ball around lately.

Regarding Steam keys for FD, I have to be honest: given the way I've seen FD treat their consumers so far, I am 99% expecting to hear an announcement soon that people who bought the game here on the store will get a key to their Steam accounts. Which will make any eventual denial of keys for whatever half-baked made-up reason (like the "always online" excuse) that much more of a disappointment.
 
I'm onboard with the wanting of a steam key. I was one of the few people who actually requested the game be put on Steam back in December of last year. I advocated that having the game on Steam would expand the community, make sales, and better connect players with new players. When the game was only a FD Launcher game there was almost no community and no way to actively meet new community players other than this forum, whereas it's much interconnected for any multiplayer game over Steam.

But for it to work over on Steam, much like Tropico games, Ubisoft Games (cross client games), and EVE Online - when you open the game via steam it brings up a log-in dashboard. We wouldn't log in to the game via the Steam log-in database, we'd log in through the FD servers either way especially since it's an online game we Need to log-in via FD servers no matter what. So when we buy expansion or paints or any form of DLC it is on our FD account. Regardless if we buy the DLC from FD Store or from Steam, it goes to our account. (Or at the very least if you buy something from Steam that it gives you a universal key that can unlock via the FD website account section as a redeemable code).

It shouldn't be difficult to link the contents and have the game integrated into steam and still have the standard FD log-in dashboard that we already have.

So... Yes, when you look into this, I'd like a steam key also so that I could connect with the Steam users and Steam community. I'd also like to be able to rate the game and have discussions with Steam Users without being treated as a 3rd class citizen because I don't have "Owns Elite: Dangerous" on my Steam.
 
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Yeah, because one thing is plain when reading these forums: people don't like complaining, and don't look for things to complain about. (The last statement was sarcasm, because it doesn't apparently come across well in text.)

It wouldn't have mattered if they'd given everyone a steam key and a free pony, you'd have threads saying "only ONE key! OMG ripoff" and "A frikkin pony? David Barben is crook! I want a UNICRON!"

That's hyperbole, there's really no evidence to support that argument, most people here haven't been unreasonable, or had complaints without merit.


"Gross negligence"? Overreact much? They haven't killed someone in a botched surgery, steered a passenger liner into some rocks trying to impress some women on the shoreline, or caused a global financial meltdown.

More hyperbole, but no that's not what the word means, nice try though.


They put a game on sale in Steam in response to people's pleas. Nice of them to listen to people, especially when they were selling decent numbers without it. Nobody made a big fuss about getting a key until after the game was on Steam. Anyway, they are a developer who worked for publishers exclusively until this game's release, and are learning as they go, so making a few little mistakes is par for the course.

A crowd of histrionic crybabies making mountains out of molehills and storms in teacups don't change the fact that this isn't a big deal, and is easily dealt with after they have slept off their roast lamb dinners, recovered from the overload of chocolate eggs/bunnies/Jesuses/Brians/etc, and finished attending boring church services.

No, to quote them, it was a "new sales channel", if they did this in response to community feedback surely they would also have had the courtesy to make people migrate their game to Steam, fact of the matter is that they planned this, they could've addressed our concerns beforehand, they allegedly didn't do that to "gather player player feedback", which, as I've pointed out before, means that it's not a question of being impatient and waiting until after easter, they actually chose this.

Why is anybody's guess.
 
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That's hyperbole, there's really no evidence to support that argument, most people here haven't been unreasonable, or had complaints without merit.
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Gross negligence is a long-disputed legal term, but is often used to denote cases where serious consequences result, e.g. manslaughter. I don't see anyone dying around here, do you?

As for your speculation about their plans and motives, there's not much point responding since it's just that, speculation.
 
Fisker, meet the Elite: Dangerous forum. Elite: Dangerous forum, meet Fisker.
(You really haven't been around long, have you?)

Hi! Thanks, now where was that evidence we talked about?

Gross negligence is a long-disputed legal term, but is often used to denote cases where serious consequences result, e.g. manslaughter. I don't see anyone dying around here, do you?

Yes and the meaning of said word is to act with negligence so far below the standard of common sense it should be illegal, not your hyperbolic fantasies that this action would somehow cause somebody's death or the financial system to collapse.

As for your speculation about their plans and motives, there's not much point responding since it's just that, speculation.

What speculation?
 
Just wanted to add +1 for a key.
I am not in a hurry, however.
I will be happy to have one, but this won't be a big deal if I dont


Anyway, I dont think FD can generate 400k keys in a snap, since Steam does not handle games and bandwidth for free
 
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