Elite Dangerous now on Steam

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FuzzySpider

FuzzySpider
uk_uk said:
I'll try to explain it to you:

You buy a Porsche, I buy a Porsche. Same car.
You live (let's say:) in the US of A
I live in Germany

I can drive as fast as I want on the Autobahn.
You have nation wide speed limits.

You drive with 65-80 mph/h (lol)
I drive with 180 mph..

Same car, different "infrastructure" or "play enviroment"...

We don't talk about how the game itself might change. We talk about how to access the game and how to share content (reviews, screenshots, thoughts etc).
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In this analogy the place you're driving the car is more like the type of build your PC has, or whether you're using a console or PC or something. What you're talking about is how you talk about your car to someone else later.

When you're actually driving (or playing) there is zero functional difference.
 

Polonium

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+1 for steam key

If I would have known that there will be a steam version and no steam key for backers I wouldn't have backed in the first place. Now it's too late. I got screwed and spending another 50 € is no option for me.
I deleted the game the moment I read about not getting a steam key. Since I think the guys at Frontier are not stupid I guess Frontier just doesn't care about the backers any more. The game is funded and the final version is on steam.

But could have been worse. The game could have sucked in the first place. I had a lot of fun with the beta that's enough for me. I guess I won't even come back if there are going to be keys for backers in the future.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me! So, no more money from my side. Braben won't have sleepless nights because of this and I won't either. Since I don't like the dogfight part there wasn't much to do anyway.
 

CravenTHC

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FuzzySpider said:
In this analogy the place you're driving the car is more like the type of build your PC has, or whether you're using a console or PC or something. What you're talking about is how you talk about your car to someone else later.

When you're actually driving (or playing) there is zero functional difference.
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Hmm no.

The PC build you use would be like the engine that runs the car. The car body, transmission, and wheels are like the game. Having the same exact car with a different engine, better or worse, would be like playing a game on a different PC build.

Driving a car with the exact same engine in a different infrastructure would be exactly the same as playing on Steam vs. using the current frontier launcher.

Not saying I agree with the proposed differences, or the magnitude of them, but you're wrong that the analogy doesn't work.
 

Jason S

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So I have not the time to read the pages, all 168 and the search is not great so please do not mind if I ask a simple question.

I do not mind paying for the game again on steam, but if I did I would want to use it with my current alpha backer account.

Is that possible, does anyone know ?

Edit: And I do not mean linking an external game into steam.
 
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Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
uk_uk said:
I'll try to explain it to you:

You buy a Porsche, I buy a Porsche. Same car.
You live (let's say:) in the US of A
I live in Germany

I can drive as fast as I want on the Autobahn.
You have nation wide speed limits.

You drive with 65-80 mph/h (lol)
I drive with 180 mph..

Same car, different "infrastructure" or "play enviroment"...

We don't talk about how the game itself might change. We talk about how to access the game and how to share content (reviews, screenshots, thoughts etc).
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I've driven over Germany and the US at 1158 KIAS... :)
 

LukeDude759

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"We don't have any plans to do this at the moment, but we'll be listening to player feedback and looking to see how much demand there is."

Steam has over 125 million users, and the record for most users online at the same time is 8.9 million. It's the #1 way to buy, download, and play PC games. In fact, most PC gamers consider it the ONLY way to play PC games. Do they really need to "listen to player feedback" to get at least a general idea of how much demand there is?
 

Mystified

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{SAS}Stalker said:
Steam ... who will remove access to your entire library with little or no comeback and yet its revered. Marketing can make anything good I guess.
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Nonsense, unless you're somehow linked to fraudulent trading practices at worst they'll 'restrict' your account, which means you can't use community features, use the market/trade, add friends, and won't be able to buy new games on your account, but you'll keep having full access to your library. No wonder some of you see the devil when you hear about Steam if this is the kind of misinformation you're basing your opinions on.
 
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Silent_Star

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TekDragon said:
Because I respected Frontier for bringing a game like this to market, something I was looking forward to playing with friends.

Now Frontier has told me I don't deserve to play this game inside my Steam environment with an easy to access game library, over a decade of gaming friends, and a rich and active community - and instead I have to download it through their no-name company website and play it through a completely different process than every other game I own, completely divorced from my friend and community environment. Instead I have to fork over another $60 for that privilege.
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- did that bother you before the release on steam? No
- is the game itself different on steam? No
- did FD give people a definite answer about give people steam keys?
- it seems silly to make a 180 turn now the game is on steam. Before it's good and now it's bad, evil and sucks.

All this for options that are archievable without touching steam.
I agree that current pre steam players should get a key, but we have no ground to make demands because we play the exact same game.
The people who say I want, I want, I want.its just pathetic how people have changed into a bunch of demanding mindless lot.
Yes you should get a key, but stop behaving like a 5year old obnoxious spoiled kid.
 
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Tinman

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We interrupt this exciting match with the following "broadcast". :D

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As expected the numbers dropped slightly today to "only" 8,000 new customers (after two days of 10,000 each) and the spike will of course continue to fall off tomorrow, but still...28,000 new players in only three days. Not to bad! :)
 

Foxkr

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+1, give us STEAM keys, it isn't a new account just a way of adding the game we already own to our steam libraries.
 

Haliburton

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+ for giving us a Steam key. I paid $59.99 to Frontier, so why not give me a free key to play on Steam? Other than hoping I pay again to play it on Steam. If Frontier wants more of my money, they better treat us fairly with keys.

Also, Silent Star, he and everyone has every right to be upset that they are pretending to not know that players would be angry.
 

aumnom

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+1 for my steam key please.

cause until then it wont show on my account, so no one can see that i own it, adding is as non steam will not get me what i want
I cant make tutorials,
I cant share screen shots,
I cant give it a review,
I cant track my hours played.
you are missing out on a lot of "friend-list advertising" right this very minute.

I will be severely disappointed in Frontier if I am not able to add it to steam, definitely "Won't bother" with you guys in the future if you feel the same about my steam key
 
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Gilmour

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Gilmour
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Originally Posted by gary.brain
even then they said they will look into it so don't expect anything for a few weeks.



If they said they would look into it, don't expect anything...ever.
 

TekDragon

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Silent_Star said:
- did that bother you before the release on steam? No
- is the game itself different on steam? No
- did FD give people a definite answer about give people steam keys?
- it seems silly to make a 180 turn now the game is on steam. Before it's good and now it's bad, evil and sucks.
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There was no 180. You'd know that if you ever backed anything on Kickstarter.

I've backed over 3 dozen projects myself. EVERY SINGLE ONE has come out on Steam.

Planetary Annihilation
Stonehearth
Pillars of Eternity
FTL
DwarfCorp
War for the Overworld
Wasteland 2
Warmachine: Tactics
Shroud of the Avatar
ROAM
Sui Generis
TUG
Raius
GODUS
Maia
Dead State
The Banner Saga

And countless more.

EVERY SINGLE ONE has come out on Steam. EVERY SINGLE ONE merged their backers' accounts onto Steam.

Except Elite: Dangerous. Why?

Is it because EVERY SINGLE OTHER developer out there are anti-consumer swine and Frontier is the lone beacon of virtue? Ha, nice try cupcake. Only the worst kind of fanboy would try to pull that logical leap.

I'm mad (and so are countless other people, including the gaming press) because Frontier is the ONE EXCEPTION that decided they don't give a <snip> about their consumers and decided to force backers to hand over an extra $60 if they wanted the "privilege" to play in their Steam environment with their library, their games, and their friends. $60 for something that EVERY SINGLE OTHER developer did for free.

It is a scum-bag move from a company that pretended to be decent. They deserve every pound of derision being heaped upon them.
 
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