Nah, only people with a last name that starts with the letter "Z" will get Steam keys. Hate to have to say it, but your comment is ridiculous and borderline elitist. As if Alpha and Beta backer money spends better than anyone else's.
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Nah, only people with a last name that starts with the letter "Z" will get Steam keys. Hate to have to say it, but your comment is ridiculous and borderline elitist. As if Alpha and Beta backer money spends better than anyone else's.
You bought the game from the Zaonce store. Not from Steam. While it may be smart of Frontier to offer you to transfer the license, they are not obliged to do so. They may still do it, but getting all worked up and feeling entitled to it isn't going to make you look good.
You're crazy. Steam is set up to run in the background on my machine and is executed at startup. For me, having to either fiddle around with the Windows start menu or clutter up my desktop with yet another icon needed to start the Elite launcher is an inconvenience. Different strokes for different folks. Just because your case is different from others doesn't mean you should argue with them that your way is better. And I'm not sure what you are talking about when you say that Steam games lock down or disappear. I've been using Steam almost as long as Steam has existed, and the things you vaguely describe have never happened to me.
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Big steam user...
But it can be intrusive and yes if steam goes offline you can lose access to a host of games until it's back up.
I see zero benefits personally to having a steam key for a game I purchased outside of steam. I have it set as a non steam game so my friends can see what I am playing and of course I can boot up elite from the steam menu as a result.
As for friending up, well that's what wing invites do in game, steam doesn't change that mechanic.
Whilst I'm not against having a steam key, I really think the levels of entitlement and toy throwing over this very trivial issue is borderline ridiculous.
We bought it from page store cuz it was not on Steam. If we knew it is going to be released on Steam we would wait. What the hell is so hard to understand? There are hundreds of people who are telling you the same stuff and yet you are here smarter then ever. I know they are not obliged but we demand fair play and nothing more.
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I'm not mad about it being on steam, im not even angry i bought it from their store. However I would prefer it on steam. And have uninstalled the game until either I A. get a key or B. it goes on sale.
Steam have obligations to paying customers and nobody else, you are not a paying customer. Understand now ?.
Well said good sir. In the end, it really does come down to personal taste. We have people on both sides of the fence here, but what's really annoying me is people who argue that there's no point to having it on Steam. Personal preference is reason enough in my book, but (here I go again) you get to keep your game's tidy in a single library, you get to track your hours played so you can show your epeen to your friends, you get to (more easily) access the community hub and streaming of the game, you get to take advantage of SteamVR, you get to collect trading cards and gain achievements (if and when they are added to the game), your friends are able to click on you while your playing the game in order to view the official game on Steam (in case they are interested in buying it themselves), you get to review the game to share your own personal experience with Elite, and there's probably other things I've missed.
YES, people are going to absolutely insist on arguing some of these things and their usefulness. People are going to argue that there are work arounds for half the things listed there (maybe more)... Did I mention that comes down to personal taste? I really wish people would just shut up and stop arguing the pro-Steam vs anti-Steam arguments. I have not seen many a person in this entire thread go out of their way to argue with or insult people who don't use Steam. It's been almost entirely one sided. It's like arguing about which soda is better. Geez.
Anyways, I hope for some news soon. I hope we're given a choice by Frontier. +1 (again) for Steam keys. But if I were at Frontier reading some of this entitlement and hate, I don't know if I could keep my personal feelings out of it to be honest.
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You can't decide facts by popular vote. It doesn't matter if a thousand muppets vote on the earth being a flat disk - it's still a spheroid. Likewise, while you may find yourself in company of a lot of like-minded individuals who all believe Frontier owes them a Steam key because you all stomp your feet, you are still not right.
That's actually a contradiction. Either you demand to be given a steam key, in which case you feel that you are entitled to it and that Frontier is obliged to give you one. Or you don't *demand* it, and instead ask for it, accepting the possibility that they end up NOT giving out Steam keys. The latter makes your request a reasonable one, and reflects well on yourself. The former, not so much.
Steam is software, it has no obligations.
Valve has obligations to their customers, sure, but they have very little to do with this mess. They'd be more than happy to give keys to all of us (provided they were linked to our Frontier accounts, so that we couldn't give them to non-players). More people, more sales, everyone wins, just like with the ubiquitous discounts.
Now, Frontier... that is who a lot of people have an issue with, and who might (or might not) have an obligation to provide Steam access to existing customers now that the game is on Steam (which, let's be clear, would benefit Frontier even more than the players).
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So you'd rather not play the game now, and then pay again to have the miniscule benefits of an hour counter and your screenshots posted on the ED "community hub" on Steam? Wow.
To use your words.
There may be people at FD who agree with you and are leaning towards a flat refusal simply because of the entitlement and hate. Its human nature to say no to an ignorant demanding request, and in this case it would teach a lot of people the benefits of avoiding a tantrum whilst asking for something.
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Fair enough "VALVE" have obligations towards their paying customers, and nobody else.
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I agree - a lot of the 'You shouldn't have a key' posters are either trolling for fun or have an axe to grind with Steam 'show us on the doll where Gabe touched you?'.
This thread is 90% people saying to Frontier directly that they would quite like a Steam key, about 5% of the Steam insane ('without a key my life is over!1!!') and 5% of those either who hate Steam or just want to troll it up a bit for fun.
"you are not entitled for anything" comments...
yeah.. yeah, Im not, however, I dont like to back companies that dont go toward their customers.
I didnt post some angry comments about how its all such bull and they should go die in a fire of piles of dead babies - I noted that I will no longer support them.
just like I no longer buying Ubisoft games because ......
noting a fact, no threat or an entitled comment about how they MUST give it. they dont, ofcourse - its my problem I didnt wait for a steam release that they said was never gonna happend.
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No need to resort to insults.
You do not seem to understand what I said. I told you, you can add the non-steam version of ED to your steam game library. It will NOT clutter up your desktop. You can launch it from steam, and it will look and behave just like the Steam version. The only things you don't get are stuff like the "X hours played" counter, and the hub stuff. Everything else works the same, even the way the game is updated is the same.
Is that clearer now?
Here, have a screenshot so you can see that is indeed "all in one place":
If nothing else, all this lunacy has made me realise what a great job steam must have done marketing wise over the years.
There are gamers, actual gamers, that consider a launcher designed purely to sell you more games to be more important than the games they play on it.
Except they didn't say that and you made that bit up.
Is homeworld remastered any good, I loved the original not so keen on homeworld 2
Or maybe, just maybe, they'd rather see FD (or indeed any other game developer) reap the rewards of their own hard work without being forced to share it with Valve.
Or maybe, just maybe, they do forsee a possible issue with a company migrating a lot of already-sold licenses onto the Steam service and are wondering whether or not that will hit FDs bottom line (we do not know this either way).
There isn't a need to poison the well here. We should all be able to discuss this without resorting to dirty debating tactics.
A launcher that is basically dominating the PC market now, and is starting to become so pervasive as to be a toxic force for PC gaming.
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It's good to see this thread still on top here. A real sign perhaps that the community regards getting a Steam key as important still, even 5 days after the Steam release.
I thought perhaps the 'steam keys for existing purchasers' issue would sort of slip away and be off the forum front page, but it looks like it is still very much on people's minds.
Cool. Let's see what Frontier now decide to do..
I thought perhaps the 'steam keys for existing purchasers' issue would sort of slip away and be off the forum front page, but it looks like it is still very much on people's minds.
Cool. Let's see what Frontier now decide to do..
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