Elite Dangerous now on Steam

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Who's angry? I'm not a fan of how Valve does business, that is true, and I think that those campaigning to get their copy of this game linked in to the Steam infrastructure are like turkeys voting for Thanksgiving/Christmas/Turkey-Eating Day (pick the one that applies to you). I'm not emotionally invested in any of it, though. There are more important things to concern one's self with, frankly.

People want to moan about stuff, they like it. I get it. It can even be fun! They moan about this, it either gets done or it doesn't, then they move on and find a new thing to moan about. Unless it's the offline brigade, of course, they take any and every opportunity to point out the evils of Frontier as they see them like street-corner preachers who are curiously always online.

Great, you do understand that much like not having to launch the game via steam, you also don't have to keep clicking on this topic and reading replies, since both of those seem so unpalatable to you.
 
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Great, you do understand that much like not having to launch the game via steam, you also don't have to keep clicking on this topic and reading replies, since both of those seem so unpalatable to you.

You are correct, I don't have to do so. You didn't need to respond to my post either, however.
 
Then some banged on about the 'cost of Steam keys', but then we have about 15 other titles published where the dev have indicated they didn't pay Valve for keys. So, guess what - not true (unless Frontier are now this one magic exception, where an NDA magically makes Valve want to charge for keys all of a sudden, which is pretty much the definition of a straw man).
I am a bit skeptical about this, can you provide links to said titles and the fact that they didn't pay for keys? I want to be wrong about steam wanting money from frontier part of the money frontier already has earned.
 
Just looking in my email now , an amusing contrast to this affair

Broken Age another kickstarter game just shipped to backers

So i got a steam key, a drm free copy, and an Ouya copy.. For $15.

Good work FD.. you'll work it out eventually.. lol.
 
So i got a steam key, a drm free copy, and an Ouya copy.. For $15.

You really need to realise that what applies to one game means nothing to other games. Unless you can produce the contract between Valve and Frontier you don't what's going on.

Great, you do understand that much like not having to launch the game via steam, you also don't have to keep clicking on this topic and reading replies, since both of those seem so unpalatable to you.

A debate about something usually involves differing opinions. Why does seeing a negative view of Valve bother you so much?
 
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I didn't expect an immediate answer to the Steam question, but going on 4 weeks since the Steam launch and still no official word :( I wonder what the issues are or if this has been discarded now.

Frontier,

Could you please advise what is going on with the Steam keys? Is it in progress, is it still being investigated, is it still some time off or expecting something to advise your customers any time soon?

Either way it turns out, it would be great to get a response and update to alleviate people's ongoing concerns around this.

Thank you from a patient fan.

Michael Brookes stated in his dev update (2 or 3 weeks ago) that it wasn't only their decision, Valve has a word to say too. As far as we know, nothing moved since. Maybe we'll get more infos on this week's dev update (along with Crime update !).
 
You really need to realise that what applies to one game means nothing to other games. Unless you can produce the contract between Valve and Frontier you don't what's going on.

You have to realise that the burden of proof falls to you, we've proven our argument.

You can't use this fallacy to further your argument that we might be wrong based on the fact that we don't know the agreement, we don't have to, you have to prove that the agreement is different, we don't have to prove that it isn't.

I can tell you from experience that the agreement is boilerplate so it's definitely not different, but don't let that hold you back, prove us wrong instead of your fairy tales of what might be.
 
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You have to realise that the burden of proof falls to you, we've proven our argument.

You can't use this fallacy to further your argument that we might be wrong based on the fact that we don't know the agreement, we don't have to, you have to prove that the agreement is different, we don't have to prove that it isn't.

I can tell you from experience that the agreement is boilerplate so it's definitely not different, but don't let that hold you back, prove us wrong instead of your fairy tales of what might be.

Just produce your steam/valve receipt for ED and you get your steam key right away.

Without one valve/steam owe you nothing definitely not free access to a product you haven't purchased.
 
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How can you still argue about this? lol
255 pages about Steam. Crazy...
It is amazing, people have been playing the game for quite a while, but because it ends up on steam, suddenly a steam key is needed apparently very very badly, the game itself hasn't changed at all?
Sure a steam key and or linking or whatever would be nice, but it is really this crucial?
 
It is amazing, people have been playing the game for quite a while, but because it ends up on steam, suddenly a steam key is needed apparently very very badly, the game itself hasn't changed at all?
Sure a steam key and or linking or whatever would be nice, but it is really this crucial?

No, but the nature abhors a vacuum and FD have created a small one on this issue. A couple of single line responses from Michael and this could have been over about a month ago.

The majority of the pages in this thread (plus the 3300 message one on the Steam forum 'where is my key?' sticky) are individual one-off member requests for a steam key. The rest are mainly either (a) people who don't like Steam and think the world really needs to know and (b) people like you who keep commenting that 'you don't care, but please stop me from having to read/reply on this thread again and again'.

Frontier having already completed the store integration makes me suspect this will all soon be over anyway.
 
No, but the nature abhors a vacuum and FD have created a small one on this issue. A couple of single line responses from Michael and this could have been over about a month ago.

The majority of the pages in this thread (plus the 3300 message one on the Steam forum 'where is my key?' sticky) are individual one-off member requests for a steam key. The rest are mainly either (a) people who don't like Steam and think the world really needs to know and (b) people like you who keep commenting that 'you don't care, but please stop me from having to read/reply on this thread again and again'.

Frontier having already completed the store integration makes me suspect this will all soon be over anyway.
What vacuum, launch launcher play game? maybe it is just me, but I do not see how getting a steam key is going to change anything with the only exception of auto updater, and that to me is just about like 5-10 minutes of convenience issue.

on b: I wouldn't say I am saying people do not care about it, obviously they do, but I think they are making a mountain out of a molehill so to speak. The VAST majority of people's time is spent playing the game, not sitting with launcher/steam whatever, so is it that important? once the game is running, you don't notice any difference, and if you like the steam overlay add the game as a non steam game? This and other thread comes across to me as people going "OMG I NEED A STEAM KEY OR THIS GAME SUCKS!" and that makes absolutely no sense in my mind, people seeming upset with frontier for not getting the steam version as well?, yes of course there are those like me that think a steam key would be nice, but many seem to be getting upset with frontier for not having the steam version yesterday, and I cannot wrap my head around that. I try to figure out why that is though, why it is so vitally important to some.
 
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I didn't expect an immediate answer to the Steam question, but going on 4 weeks since the Steam launch and still no official word :( I wonder what the issues are or if this has been discarded now.

Frontier,

Could you please advise what is going on with the Steam keys? Is it in progress, is it still being investigated, is it still some time off or expecting something to advise your customers any time soon?

Either way it turns out, it would be great to get a response and update to alleviate people's ongoing concerns around this.

Thank you from a patient fan.

No official word apart from the 3 announcements made by FDev staff then?

See my sig below for the first two. Make note that on the 16th MB said it would still take several weeks to resolve. That was 11 days ago.

11 days =\= several weeks.

The latest news was from Ed via twitch. They are still working on it. There will be "new news" when there is news to give.

Don't complain about FDev's silence when they have clearly kept us updated. MB did post it in the news section of the forum after all.
 
Just produce your steam/valve receipt for ED and you get your steam key right away.

Without one valve/steam owe you nothing definitely not free access to a product you haven't purchased.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here, there was seemingly no link between my post and your reply.
 
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