Elite Dangerous now on Steam

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Couldn't steam let us migrate for free? We already own the game and are unlikely to purchase it again - they may do it for free as they get all that advertising shoved at you when you open steam - they aren't losing anything - gaining in fact.
 
And the fact that Steam keeps the launcher up to date. So not functionally identical.

The launcher, yes, but not the game itself. An extremely minor detail, and not worth demanding a refund over or telling people to never give Frontier money. It's a minor inconvenience, nothing more. Heaven forbid you have to sit for a few more minutes in your (more likely than not) climate controlled home, in front of your computer, to allow it to update your recreational video game. That's terrible! That's horrible that Frontier doesn't jump right now and just hand out keys they probably don't even have generated and portioned yet. They're a terrible company for telling us they are going to investigate the possibility and get back to us with a verdict. Bad. Bad Frontier. Bad.

Or, possibly, the community is doing what it always does anytime Frontier announces anything ever in the history of them making announcements: Overracting and kneejerking each other off.
 
i say they should give us steam keys to b fair
at least they can make +75% of the players happy.

Couldn't steam let us migrate for free? We already own the game and are unlikely to purchase it again - they may do it for free as they get all that advertising shoved at you when you open steam - they aren't losing anything - gaining in fact.

As has been stated mutliple times, these are corporations. It's not as simple as someone saying, "Hey, let's give them steam keys." and someone else going, "Okay!"

Businesses always operate on a slower schedule. They are looking into it. Give them time to let the lawyers hash everything out. And remember, lawyers are paid by the hour.
 
And can we stop saying "give key" because what I think we are after is just a migration of the game we already own onto the steam platform. Saying "give me a key" seems to be butthurting some people on this thread. We are not after free stuff.
 
I run the game through Steam at the moment as I find I get a noticeably better screen resolution (can't adjust the TV screen resolution itself as it's quite old). The Elite Dangerous launcher was manually added to the Steam library, and I launch it from there under the Steam UI. Recently I've found that the game doesn't reliably launch properly through Steam - specifically the ED launcher runs fine and I can log-in to my ED account but when I then click to play the game invariably it returns to the launcher screen but I can hear the music of the menus etc. However the game screen isn't displayed. It's as if it's running in a parallel instance. Eventually after restarts of the Alienware Alpha it runs the game properly.

If I downloaded the game again through Steam (either with a free Steam key or as a separate purchase) would it be likely to run more reliably than a manually added link to the launcher?

If we don't get a free Steam key, and if I bought the game again through Steam, would I be able to log into my "real" account via this new installation, or would it have to be a totally different new user login? Are we allowed to buy more than one account?
 
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It's not Launcher free. This seems to be what people don't understand, you are still using the Frontier launcher. If you buy it through Steam, the steam API just forces steam to be open as well before you can open Elite (Although if you use the non-steam shortcut you can probably bypass that by just using the EDLauncer.exe).

Again, there is zero functional difference in the version, except Frontier get a certain percent less if you buy it via Steam instead of their store...

Oh - like Ubisoft games on steam ? Than this is pretty silly rant thread :)
 
And I would just like to say - I am rather enjoying this thread with all the poo slinging going on.

Mason of Madagascar "If you have any poo, fling it now!"
 
And can we stop saying "give key" because what I think we are after is just a migration of the game we already own onto the steam platform. Saying "give me a key" seems to be butthurting some people on this thread. We are not after free stuff.

So the bandwidth from valve. The patches they provide, the downloads, the support etc is supplied by the internet fairies? Someone pays. This is business, someone always pays.
 
And can we stop saying "give key" because what I think we are after is just a migration of the game we already own onto the steam platform. Saying "give me a key" seems to be butthurting some people on this thread. We are not after free stuff.

We understand you're referring to migration of an account, it's still a much more complicated procedure than people think it is. Again, these are two corporations interacting. Not a guy buying a gun at an Alabama gun show.

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Oh - like Ubisoft games on steam ? Than this is pretty silly rant thread :)

My sentiments exactly. :)
 
Apparently, DB said there will be no Steam version of ED in the past, for instance, in an Eurogamer interview from Sep '14:


Eurogamer: Will you launch the game on Steam?

David Braben: No. We've got to support the game with our own back end anyway, so I don't see the benefit of it.


The question is now: if people would have known that a Steam version will be available in April '15, would they have really waited for so long?
 
As has been stated mutliple times, these are corporations. It's not as simple as someone saying, "Hey, let's give them steam keys." and someone else going, "Okay!"

Businesses always operate on a slower schedule. They are looking into it. Give them time to let the lawyers hash everything out. And remember, lawyers are paid by the hour.

Actually it is exactly that simple, you contact your Account Manager at Valve, they give you the details, you do whatever stuff you need to do on your side to be ready (developer work) if any is necessary, and you're done.

Yes, businesses do operate on a slower schedule, for that reason most people gets this done beforehand so they don't have to deal with this mess, however being slow wasn't the issue, the issue is that they're looking into whether or not it should be done at all, their own initial assessment was to not do so at this time, they're now reevaluating that.

So the bandwidth from valve. The patches they provide, the downloads, the support etc is supplied by the internet fairies? Someone pays. This is business, someone always pays.

We've been over this logical fallacy once already, these costs also exists whether or not they provide this service, bandwitdh costs are potentially infinite, and the income they generate per sale is finite, hence by your logic Steam can't exist at all because at some point the expenses to run Steam outvalues the price of a single game, that's why they're considered operational costs, they don't get taken into consideration as far as the single user is concerned, the combined revenue they gain from running the business like they've done has moved the goalpost for expenses exceeding their income so far into the future that they can provide this bandwitdh, the support, and whatever else, essentially for free.
 
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I agree, if it's not expensive for them to do so.

I personally couldn't care less, but if it'll stop all this silly whining and stamping of feet and is a reasonably trivial job in terms of money and time, then by all means steam keys for all.

If on the other hand there is a non-trivial amount of money or time involved, then as someone who uses steam for a large proportion of my gaming needs I can say that I'd rather that money went on development than on me not having to update the launcher. I've done it a few times and despite some close calls I've never lost a limb yet.
 
I personally couldn't care less, but if it'll stop all this silly whining and stamping of feet and is a reasonably trivial job in terms of money and time, then by all means steam keys for all.

If on the other hand there is a non-trivial amount of money or time involved, then as someone who uses steam for a large proportion of my gaming needs I can say that I'd rather that money went on development than on me not having to update the launcher. I've done it a few times and despite some close calls I've never lost a limb yet.

I concur
 
Yes, let me try.

Are you trying to keep your socks on one place (like inside a drawer of a dresser) - or even two (drawer / laundry rack aka Uplay/Origin/Gog) - or is it ok for you to keep 50 socks (out of 100) in the drawer (aka Steam) and 50 socks somewhere else in your apartment/flat, even in the fridge or litter box?

Your analogy falls down cause Valve's amazing sockdrawer technology from aperture science allows you to open sock-sized portals anywhere you want them to go in your apartment right there inside the sockdrawer
 
I can't begin to get my head around the moral indignation this has caused. I'd appreciate a steam key as I like the way steam smoothly applies updates, but not if it costs ED money that I would rather went into further developing the game. And more sales of the game can only be a good thing.
 
We've been over this logical fallacy once already, these costs also exists whether or not they provide this service, bandwitdh costs are potentially infinite, and the income they generate per sale is finite, hence by your logic Steam can't exist at all because at some point the expenses to run Steam outvalues the price of a single game, that's why they're considered operational costs, they don't get taken into consideration as far as the single user is concerned, the combined revenue they gain from running the business like they've done has moved the goalpost for expenses exceeding their income so far into the future that they can provide this bandwitdh, the support, and whatever else, essentially for free.

Behold! The fairies!

Ok ok. If it will satisfy you, I'll concede your point. It's a complete logical fallacy, in fact it is completely absurd and dishonest of me, to make the outrageous claim that Steam has operating costs.
 
I can't begin to get my head around the moral indignation this has caused. I'd appreciate a steam key as I like the way steam smoothly applies updates, but not if it costs ED money that I would rather went into further developing the game. And more sales of the game can only be a good thing.

+1, i agree
 
Can the moderators lock this thread and say this will get taken care of? This discussion is just the same points being repeated.

Alternatively, just stop opening and reading this thread.

Make your own decisions, blast your own trail and all that jazz.
 
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