What I want to know is if we can "Airdrop" infantry supplies from ships? Like oxygen, ammo, shield recharge packs.
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Q&A - Weapons
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It seems to me that the game would have looked good invisibility system from BF2142
I have to say that this post fills me with more concerns than excitement.
Elite has tried to keep itself rooted in reality (despite being sci-fi), and consistency is the key to immersion. Whilst it's very important for game play reasons to have a way for infantry to counter ships, the idea that anything that can be carried by a person could damage a ship just doesn't fit into the Elite universe.
Look at the size of a class 1 pulse laser compared to a person, they're not small. Consider the power requirements to fire one of those, and the power distributor to handle charging them. Now point one of those class 1 pulse lasers at an Anaconda and watch how long it lasts (hint, according to our favourite coriolis.io, a stock sidewinder (that's two pulse lasers) will take 2m 50s to take out the shields and a further 21 minutes to take out the hull of a stock Anaconda).
With the above in mind, anything fielded by a person, needs to be in orders of magnitude less effective against ships. I will accept at a minimum, that some sort of shaped charge bolted onto the outside of a hull could scratch a ship.
The only way to damage ships has to be installation weapons (and these should be huge and effective). And game-balancing techniques from games like PlanetSide 2 need to be considered, such as roofs and installation shields to prevent air-borne attack.
Now... weapon attachments. Please do not tell me that over a thousand years into the future, where humanity has figured out how FTL, we have somehow forgotten how to make an attachment rail for a gun. And even if that is the case, humanities greatest engineers can't figure out a way to have removable attachments. Please, for the sake of all that's immersion, use your common sense when developing these things.
Elite gets a lot of flak because it's more sim than game. It's also it's saving grace, a lot of people like the sim, don't make it inconsistent and unbelievable, there is only so far I can suspend my disbelief.
Elite has tried to keep itself rooted in reality (despite being sci-fi), and consistency is the key to immersion. Whilst it's very important for game play reasons to have a way for infantry to counter ships, the idea that anything that can be carried by a person could damage a ship just doesn't fit into the Elite universe.
Look at the size of a class 1 pulse laser compared to a person, they're not small. Consider the power requirements to fire one of those, and the power distributor to handle charging them. Now point one of those class 1 pulse lasers at an Anaconda and watch how long it lasts (hint, according to our favourite coriolis.io, a stock sidewinder (that's two pulse lasers) will take 2m 50s to take out the shields and a further 21 minutes to take out the hull of a stock Anaconda).
With the above in mind, anything fielded by a person, needs to be in orders of magnitude less effective against ships. I will accept at a minimum, that some sort of shaped charge bolted onto the outside of a hull could scratch a ship.
The only way to damage ships has to be installation weapons (and these should be huge and effective). And game-balancing techniques from games like PlanetSide 2 need to be considered, such as roofs and installation shields to prevent air-borne attack.
Now... weapon attachments. Please do not tell me that over a thousand years into the future, where humanity has figured out how FTL, we have somehow forgotten how to make an attachment rail for a gun. And even if that is the case, humanities greatest engineers can't figure out a way to have removable attachments. Please, for the sake of all that's immersion, use your common sense when developing these things.
Elite gets a lot of flak because it's more sim than game. It's also it's saving grace, a lot of people like the sim, don't make it inconsistent and unbelievable, there is only so far I can suspend my disbelief.
Can we deal guardian site on foot and take guardian drop by hand?
I'd known such attacks were war gamed, but not heard of that particular storyAs I said, one person attacks were frequently practiced scenarios. You might not think one person would be able to do much damage to a warship, but the Navy disagrees.
The funniest practice attack I ever saw was two Royal Marines on a jet ski - with the guy on the back stood up with an empty LAW launcher. Unfortunately for him it’d been snowing so he got a bit of “incoming” himself
Back to EDO - massive ship weapons fired at fairly long range compared to handheld stuff at close range - how (or if) this get explained will be interesting. Will it be like targeting the Power Plant now, where you get some good shots in for a possible early boom? Grenades could be self-shaping penetrating charges or some other sci-fi handwavium, and the much closer ranges and more accurate targeting could explain the increased damage. To jump back to real-world analogies - a single frogman with strategically placed shaped charge limpets could probably do some serious damage to a ship, but we’re probably not going to be replacing our missile systems with long-range frogman-launching guns to attack other ships with
The key point is.. They didn't swim up to the ship only carrying what they could lift. They had a vehicle to assist. In Elite terms it's like driving fast in an SRV that is carrying 2 tons of boom mines, and attacking said ship by unloading the cargo by themselves.I thought of the frogman example, but being blunt anyone who parks their ship in the middle of a firefight is asking for it. The info doesn't mention limpet mines just missiles and grenades although since we are talking about OP weapons instead of (space) frogmen guns my vote would go for a skimmer multi-cannon. Instead of bullets it fires skimmers...
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They even had sharp sticks!
Will there be specific handheld weapon damage towards shields vs. hull vs. modules depending on the weapon/attachments/engineering?
Everything you can do in Odyssey you can already do in this tech demo called "star citizen". nothing really unique here.
Instead, what I would have loved to see is more things like planetary/moon mining with planetary vehicles, new game loop that involve ship interior. EVA game loops. Caves
nobody is going to quit Fortnite to play Odyssey because it has FPS now. I think FDev took the request for "space legs" way too far. Nobody really wanted a full on FPS game. People play Elite because they enjoy flying space ships and exploring the galaxy. If you want FPS, go play Borderlands or Battlefront, idk there are so many options...
Instead, what I would have loved to see is more things like planetary/moon mining with planetary vehicles, new game loop that involve ship interior. EVA game loops. Caves
nobody is going to quit Fortnite to play Odyssey because it has FPS now. I think FDev took the request for "space legs" way too far. Nobody really wanted a full on FPS game. People play Elite because they enjoy flying space ships and exploring the galaxy. If you want FPS, go play Borderlands or Battlefront, idk there are so many options...
Probably an in-game bounty too
No melee weapons.
Ma cutlass.
Ma cutlass.
Change "nobody" to "myself, HRDiagram and BartTP". You don't talk for everybody.
Yeah, I mean look at the pilot augmentations in Titanfall and that happens a full thousand years before Elite
I'd be OK with that IF they didn't entirely focus on that aspect of the game. Alas, as far as we know, Odyssey is mainly about combat instead of making new planets interesting places to be on, like caves, weather, snowfalls, surface mining and stuff like that. This is why the thing I really care about is a graphic overhaul and the lobby to meet other cmdrs in person. I will try new missions, sure, but I doubt it will become my main game activity. Like others said, if I'd wanted to play FPS, I'd play dedicated game.Change "nobody" to "myself, HRDiagram and BartTP". You don't talk for everybody.
Can you please specify if there's going to be fancy finish animations for melee kills? Or enemies will simply go ragdoll when you land the final hit?
So weapons are intended to be the equivalent of ships in odysee? Well won't say anything bad about a feature not for me.
Guess combat players won the headline feature this patch. Fair enough, its their turn. Enjoy shooting things.
So the mission board gives us a ticket to one round at a classic fps map.. capture the flag like objectives then reward. No idea if i even like fps anymore. Looking forward to finding out.
Guess combat players won the headline feature this patch. Fair enough, its their turn. Enjoy shooting things.
So the mission board gives us a ticket to one round at a classic fps map.. capture the flag like objectives then reward. No idea if i even like fps anymore. Looking forward to finding out.
This makes me sad. I was hoping for futuristic and/or traditional swords (style + would fit the Empire perfectly in my opinion) or at least knifes to get some melee surprise for enemies
Has anybody said reverb cascade SAM? I’m gunna say reverb cascade SAM...
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I'd be extremely surprised if Frontier went to the effort of animating finishing moves, especially since it seems like melee combat is an afterthought at best.
Hmm makes you think doesnt it. I'm getting concerned more delays. They haven't released any real content for months, absolutley nothing this year at least. Apparently the last dev diary is still being worked on and autumn/spring starts on monday. Alpha is suppose to be launching within the first few weeks and we barely have anything.
I'm afraid further delays on release are imminent...