Fixing all the bugs only to introduce new ones when you add an update isn't an economical way to make games. There will be bugs,oh yes there will be bugs.
ENOUGH!
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It's not an economical way to make anything.. but it's a reality of software development - the more complex the application, the more likely bugs are going to slip through.
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Dude, you need to breathe into a paper bag or something, you are going to burst a blood vessel. Just calm down a bit, eh?
My guess?
1. The planetary devs created the spawn mechanics, then the mission devs hi-jacked it when creating their mission templates but didn't instruct the client not to spawn any nearby targets at POI's.
OR
2. The mission developers developed the spawn mechanics, then the planetary devs hi-jacked the functionality to place POI's around their planets but didn't take missions into account
OR
3. Someone else created the spawn mechanics and the mission and planet devs hi-jacked it to create their mission targets and POI's and it was considered a non-issue by the team if both spawned acceptable targets in a nearby vicinity.
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Change the mission briefing then.
How is a quest/mission description that sends you to a wrong place not been fixed after all this time ?
This has nothing to do with how oh so complex software design is or "there will be bugs".
Can we stop making up phoney excuses for basic stuff like this ?
Absolutely.
If it is sending you to the wrong place (like 500km off target or something) that's a bug, obviously; but, in this particular instance (the one Indigo mentioned) the mission tells you to go to Location A, however the POI's around Location A also have the mission targets you can take care of; this can be intentional, or a mistake that has -in the eyes of the developers- little to no negative impact on the mission completion.
As to why it hasn't been fixed .. either the developers don't see it that way (ie: bugged) OR it's down to Priority and Severity
Bugs can sit in a tracker for months, if not years depending on their priority and severity.
I'll rather stick to my experience as a developer telling me that it absolutely is down to complexity and size.
I have read ED patch notes, some of which would have put Tolstoj to shame, listing some things fixed, so obscure nobody ever heard of them.
And yes, including items as trivial as spelling corrections.
This thing has been long standing and often posted.
Perhaps then someone got their prirorities wrong, or doesn't grasp the purpose of a mission/quest description in a computer game.
"Kill me something, somewhere, you'll figure it out" is not it.
Of course it doesn't break the game or is severe in the greater scheme, not the point.
This.
Nobody tells you about even the existence of those POIs, in the game. Am I supposed to learn it from the community? To me, it looks like a bug or outrageous bad design.
How can you say it doesn't break the game if you pick up a mission to increase your reputation and it ends like you fail the mission and your reputation decreases?
I was talking from the point og view of the developer there.
As Nutti correctly said, severity and priority.
Despite that flaw the game still works of course, and it's an isolated issue not affecting other parts of the game.
Plus, players have found workarounds, which never is a good way to motivate devs to fix something.
Again, from a dev point of view.
Pita for the player of course, i agree.
My argument was more that they have fixed other "trivial" items along the way, but that they keep missing thisone.
FD consider these as BUGS and they are aware of them since early 2016. People keep reporting those issues but the game isn't fixed yet. ALMOST-2-YEARS.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/268431-Skimmer-missions-bugged!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/268671-Still-no-Skimmers-for-Kill-Skimmers-Mission
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/341393-Goliath-skimmer-mission-bug
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...oes-not-spawn-enough-POI-skimmers-don-t-count
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/268431-Skimmer-missions-bugged!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/268671-Still-no-Skimmers-for-Kill-Skimmers-Mission
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/341393-Goliath-skimmer-mission-bug
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...oes-not-spawn-enough-POI-skimmers-don-t-count
Hi there,
Thanks for your report. We are currently aware of this issue and it's something we're looking into!
Kind Regards,
//Donny
Like I said above, priority and severity.
Can the missions be completed another way? Yes. (low priority)
Does it disrupt game-play significantly? No. (low severity)
Location of bug in buggy pile? Bottom.
I'm crying here.
Skimmers not appearing at bases is definitely a bug; however, if the mission can still be completed .. it gets a lower importance (see above). A developer isn't really concerned about whether or not a few Cmdr's know about the POI's, they're concerned about whether or not the bug is breaking the game; and by breaking, I don't mean gamer-definition "can't run around rock, game is broke"
- I mean, the bug actually prevents completion and cannot, in any way, be completed - considering there is a work-around, the POI's.. low importance, low severity.I know this sounds stupid and lame, but it's how development works. If a developer spent all her time bug fixing, she'd never get any new work done.
So, sacrifices must be made.
The mission system will eventually get an overhaul.. again, lol - at which point, maybe these issues will be attended to.
I've been doing a lot of assassination missions lately and although at times they can send you on a bit of a hunt, they are working fine for me. No longer than about 5mins and you'll either see them in SC or they try to interdict you and finally they may appear in a missions signal source. I've not tried any kill skimmer missions for ages so I cant comment on them, but Assassination missions for me are working fine.
This would have been a hilarious reply, if it hadn't completely ignored the bit with the misleading instructions.
I hope that foot you just shot yourself in mends swiftly.
Such a pathetic and illogical answer that he didn't deserve attention at all. Don't feed the troll Kay.
Missions were always buggy as hell, thats why i only do simple delivery missions. Heck even simple passenger missions were a major problem with the raining skimmers. Even cif rewards was fixed and re-introduced like 3 times.
Most complex missions that are working ok are.. donation missions.. lol.
Most complex missions that are working ok are.. donation missions.. lol.
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Haha! Very good point:
SC will better...
Yeah, but Elite is RELEASED.
All these Elite bugs...
Yeah, well, umm...Elite is still in development...
Hilariously hypocritical. Nicely done!
Just thought I'd drop this in here for those who think they can do better... apparently there are so many who believe they could.
Just click the "Get Started" button, and have at it. It's freely available to anyone.
Would love to see your progress! Keep us posted!
Just click the "Get Started" button, and have at it. It's freely available to anyone.
Would love to see your progress! Keep us posted!