Exobiology - fields/forests of mixed species

[photomankc]

Tussock does come in larger areas sometimes. And also cohabitating with other fauna.

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Yeah, that's getting there. That upper picture is pretty good for density. I'm really talking larger scale than this though. In suitable habitat there might be more covered terrain than not. But some limits probably also spring from demand on the system to present all these wavy little blades. Still we've all only scratched the surface of whats to be seen so perhaps I'm asking for something that's already hiding out there somewhere. Of course, since we can't differentiate anything about life on the planets from space it may stay hidden forever.

Also there's a valid point that these are desert-like environments where it may only support that life in very small areas too. Something that could be expanded as the atmosphere's we can get out in expand.

 

[Riverside]

Yeah, that's getting there. That upper picture is pretty good for density. I'm really talking larger scale than this though. In suitable habitat there might be more covered terrain than not. But some limits probably also spring from demand on the system to present all these wavy little blades. Still we've all only scratched the surface of whats to be seen so perhaps I'm asking for something that's already hiding out there somewhere. Of course, since we can't differentiate anything about life on the planets from space it may stay hidden forever.

Also there's a valid point that these are desert-like environments where it may only support that life in very small areas too. Something that could be expanded as the atmosphere's we can get out in expand.

If it helps you gauge scale I've found tussock & fungi patches large enough to get two samples from. Not found one where all three were possible though, I'd guess that's by design.

 

[Burstar1]

As you gain experience you'll figure out areas where you're more likely to find more than one genus together. Depending on the species it can be quite common

I often see fields of Tussock with Shrubs and Fungus . These don't overlap unless you're lucky and the density of the Tussock is crazy high. When it's like this you see that grass everywhere you go.

Aleoids like to overlap Tussock and the Gel Fungus.

Strata at Tubus Towers like to be close to each other.

Electricae like to hide amongst I think Fonticulae or Concha I can't remember which.

Ammonia and Water atmosphere worlds are the best for Shangri-La areas. With CO2 atmospheres you can sometimes get lucky.

 

[Erei]

I see them intersect on occasion, but I feel it's more due to the randomness of hotspot "spawning" than an actual mechanic.

 

[HRDiagram]

If it helps you gauge scale I've found tussock & fungi patches large enough to get two samples from. Not found one where all three were possible though, I'd guess that's by design.

It's happened to me one or two times with tussock patches: I was able to get three samples from the same, massive patch.
It's very rare, but not impossible. Never happened with fungoida or with frutexa (even though their sample distance is shorter).

 

[Erei]

It's happened to me one or two times with tussock patches: I was able to get three samples from the same, massive patch.
It's very rare, but not impossible. Never happened with fungoida or with frutexa (even though their sample distance is shorter).

I noticed, and I think it's due to the difference in minimum distance between samples. The distance for tossock is relatively small, while it's much bigger for fungoida.

 

[Wendake]

No - but then would it make sense for it for it to be dense is the question.

FDev say they have scienced this out... Would you go to a desert and expect fields of green, for example? These are not you average life giving earth-like planets. They are balls of rock or ice where life is eeking out it's survival!

You can't scienced out something that was never discovered before

Example of desert patch of life : https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-special-adaptations-of-desert-plants.html

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

You can't scienced out something that was never discovered before

Example of desert patch of life : https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-special-adaptations-of-desert-plants.html

I will quote from that article:

Since desert plants are usually rare and have sparse populations

and that fits with what FDev have implemented.

You can theorise with what facts you have and then you look for the proof afterwards to see if your theory predicts correctly. That's how science works. Until we develop FTL technologies and actually find out that the universe is really boring will those theories be proven or not.

 

[Anticon]

Patches with two EDO plant species are fairly common in my experience. 3 are unusual. 4 are rare - I've only found one instance with 4 species intermingled.

As for desert plants IRL, it depends on the type of desert. Sahara sands = none. Stony desert = none. Vast areas of outback Australia = plenty however. FDev can use any model they like, it's only a game after all.

 

[Erei]

I will quote from that article:

and that fits with what FDev have implemented.

You can theorise with what facts you have and then you look for the proof afterwards to see if your theory predicts correctly. That's how science works. Until we develop FTL technologies and actually find out that the universe is really boring will those theories be proven or not.

Except it's not the same than desert plants. Desert plants are Earth world plants adapted to the desert climate.
Those world's plants are native from that planet. The "desert like" condition is essentially their entire world. They thrive there because it is their planet. Their entire evolution to this point have been made with the mold of said planet condition. They didn't "adapt" to it, it's the opposite. This is the "best" for them, should they were transferred to a more "favorable" earth like world, they'll have to adapt or die.

We have no way to know how a plant would evolve and live on such planet, being native of this planet and all. We can only hypothesise. To know we'd need alien plants on alien world for comparison and study, but we haven't found any so far.

 

[rootsrat]

Thanks for all the replies! I wasn't aware that in Alpha they've cranked it up to the max. I really wish this was left as is for live as well... But at the same time I now have an additional goal for my exobiology - find these hidden gems of dense and varied forests out there

 

[Riverside]

find these hidden gems of dense and varied forests out there

You may struggle with dense, and dense & varied. I found plenty of varied (mixed) landscapes around Colonia on planets with 7 or more types.

 

[rootsrat]

You may struggle with dense, and dense & varied. I found plenty of varied (mixed) landscapes around Colonia on planets with 7 or more types.

I'm currently in Outer Orion Spur around -1400 LY below the MW plane. Got my first reported there the other day, but there ain't many organics here. I may have to move on.

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

Except it's not the same than desert plants. Desert plants are Earth world plants adapted to the desert climate.
Those world's plants are native from that planet. The "desert like" condition is essentially their entire world. They thrive there because it is their planet. Their entire evolution to this point have been made with the mold of said planet condition. They didn't "adapt" to it, it's the opposite. This is the "best" for them, should they were transferred to a more "favorable" earth like world, they'll have to adapt or die.

We have no way to know how a plant would evolve and live on such planet, being native of this planet and all. We can only hypothesise. To know we'd need alien plants on alien world for comparison and study, but we haven't found any so far.

Well I have a theory regarding that. Whether intentional or not >shrugs<

The harsh truth is that life is hard. Scientists have had primordial goop since the 70's and one thing they have since realised is that getting the simplest of RNA chains is like rolling a dice and getting six some many times, every time. You have better odds wining the lottery. Life on Earth alone is like winning the lottery every week for a year - and yet here we are.

So the only sensible, logical explanation, however unlikely or unloved, is that life (IRL) is planted.

So back to in game. Similar species scattered across the known Universe can only mean one thing: There are Makers/Seeders! Either seeded at the birth of the universe, or subsequently scattered. The evidence of them being the breadcrumbs that will lead us to the discovery of a new race in the ED Universe!

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

I'm currently in Outer Orion Spur around -1400 LY below the MW plane. Got my first reported there the other day, but there ain't many organics here. I may have to move on.

Some regions appear to have variability in how much life you get. I touched the Norma Expanse and found lots of candidate planets without any life at all, which would have been very unusual in the Inner Orion Spur.

Either that, or we have been very unlucky in the throw of the dice!

 

[here_it_comes]

EDO exploration would be cut very short if they had multiple of the 30ish static assets spawn together. They had to draw out the minimal development put into exploration out somehow. I suppose be happy they packed even this with the FPS?

 

[CptMarkHarlock]

Greetings CMDRs!

Being an avid ED explorer myself, I read with interest the discussion in this post as had similar questions in my mind. Just today I make a guided visit in the volcanoes national park of Lanzarote (northernmost big island of Canaries) and have been surprised by how much the seemingly desolate landscapes in this area resemble some EDO vistas.

That area is an extremely young land, resulting from massive eruptions three centuries ago, with a desrtic climate as the rain happens few days each year. There are few different species of low plants scattered around on limited patches of terrain. One of them is surprisingly similar to ED:O tussock non the less!

About the colors of the terrain - The minerals give a wide range of colors, from the (quite common) black of lava fields to red, yellow and green of the volcanoes tops, they really stand out under the sunlight!

I am by no means an expert but can attest that at least this harsh environment has a very nicely done and plaisible counterpart in ED:O … I think there is a science-based foundation on how the lifeforms are generated on the planets. Of course the best answer would came from Dr. Kay Ross, one that I would love to read indeed.

Hope you will enjoy the small selection of images of the visited area attached that I found with a quick search in internet.

See y’all in the black - o7

 

[rootsrat]

Greetings CMDRs!

Being an avid ED explorer myself, I read with interest the discussion in this post as had similar questions in my mind. Just today I make a guided visit in the volcanoes national park of Lanzarote (northernmost big island of Canaries) and have been surprised by how much the seemingly desolate landscapes in this area resemble some EDO vistas.

That area is an extremely young land, resulting from massive eruptions three centuries ago, with a desrtic climate as the rain happens few days each year. There are few different species of low plants scattered around on limited patches of terrain. One of them is surprisingly similar to ED:O tussock non the less!

About the colors of the terrain - The minerals give a wide range of colors, from the (quite common) black of lava fields to red, yellow and green of the volcanoes tops, they really stand out under the sunlight!

I am by no means an expert but can attest that at least this harsh environment has a very nicely done and plaisible counterpart in ED:O … I think there is a science-based foundation on how the lifeforms are generated on the planets. Of course the best answer would came from Dr. Kay Ross, one that I would love to read indeed.

Hope you will enjoy the small selection of images of the visited area attached that I found with a quick search in internet.

See y’all in the black - o7

Nice one! I've been there too actually, many years ago. These landscapes definitely resemble what we can find I'm odyssey, well spotted.

If you haven't yet - go do Cueva de los Verdes, it's an amazing place. About 7 or 8km thorough underground tunnels made by lava. Very impressive. There's a small secret at the end of the track, but I won't spoil it for you

 

[rootsrat]

This is almost what I'm looking for So close!

 

[Riverside]

I finally found a patch (tussock) large enough to get all three samples from