Exobiology is broken (payouts/rank)

FixMeNow

FixMeNow
Bigmaec said:
I wonder if FD will nerf correct this mistake feature and all those sweet ranks are being reduced next week.

Or if they just shrug it off and just correct the x5 multiplier.
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They are going to change the multiplier and adjust things they hinted in the stream which they need to do.

Not that I care that they are dragging their feet I was compiler before patch, going to hit elite tonight and probably be able to hit an elite rank every day.

Should of changed the values friday but oh well 🤷
 

Miscellaneous

Miscellaneous
I, for one, look forward to enjoying the rest of the ranks later when it's not broken.

Reeling that in very significantly or backfilling the rank mistake both do not constitute any "nerf".

Hopefully the new enriched wallets help them pitch in for the war effort.

As the top rank at elite 5 quickly dilutes with amateurs, but also all tiers of practicing exobiologists, what does it mean now? Right now someone with a middle rank up to elite 4 seems more probable be the better exobiologist by a good measure than a random elite 5. Like me at Cataloguer, have a lot more experience than an increasing influx of elite 5s. Oh well oh well.

I removed the poser zinger but, well, enough from rupee noon and good day to all
 
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S0k4r0

S0k4r0
Can someone give an explanation to this please?
Before update 14, i was cataloguer at 30% aprox
after Update 14 my rank in exobiology became the same "cataloguer" but the progress bar reseted to 0%
Today i just turned this
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and now im back at 30% aprox, i cant understand it really.
how many ing trillions did you need to get to elite?
 

varonica

varonica
S0k4r0 said:
Can someone give an explanation to this please?
Before update 14, i was cataloguer at 30% aprox
after Update 14 my rank in exobiology became the same "cataloguer" but the progress bar reseted to 0%
Today i just turned this
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and now im back at 30% aprox, i cant understand it really.
how many ing trillions did you need to get to elite?
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Well as far as I can understand it, they didn't take the extra ranks away that people earned when the ranking system was broken, but they adjusted the payout for the ranks. For instance, this is just for example understand and not the actual amounts, if the amount required to earn rank 3 is 400m, but you earned rank 3 when the rank system was broken but actually only have 350m in total, you will keep rank 3 because you earned it, but your percentage towards rank 4 won't go up until you have earned the full 400m that is required for rank 3. Once you start earning above 400m then your percentage rank towards rank 4 will start going up.

So the required total is what counts, not the amount you have earned since getting rank 3, that doesn't go towards rank 4 until you have got the full amount required for rank 3. Hope that makes sense. Many people were given higher ranks that they hadn't earned the money for after the rank adjustment, so until you do your earning won't count towards the higher ranks.
 

varonica

varonica
Comandante said:
Your link is broken. For me, anyway.

So - is it the case that they've reduced the payouts now? Looking at @S0k4r0 screenshot, they look drastically reduced.
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Some were reduced, some were increased, basically a rebalancing. Those payouts in S0K4r0 were all for relatively low value bio's, there was never going to be much value in them, here's a screenshot of part of my base payouts from my screenshot where I got 1.5b cr;

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Basically as far as I am concerned the payouts are now so enormous that reducing them a bit doesn't matter. Previously my largest payout for exploration was 1.3b of an around the galaxy trip that took me 3 months, my last payout of 1.5b from bio took me around 6-8 hours to collect, so I would say, if they reduce them a bit it doesn't matter much.

This is my final payout including the bonus from that sale;

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Comandante

Comandante
varonica said:
Some were reduced, some were increased, basically a rebalancing. Those payouts in S0K4r0 were all for relatively low value bio's, there was never going to be much value in them, here's a screenshot of part of my base payouts from my screenshot where I got 1.5b cr;

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Basically as far as I am concerned the payouts are now so enormous that reducing them a bit doesn't matter. Previously my largest payout for exploration was 1.3b of an around the galaxy trip that took me 3 months, my last payout of 1.5b from bio took me around 6-8 hours to collect, so I would say, if they reduce them a bit it doesn't matter much.

This is my final payout including the bonus from that sale;

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Nice! Thanks for the information.

Looks like I might do a bit more when I get the time. I think you've either got to enjoy doing it, force yourself to like it or just find that it makes you miserable. As hard as I've tried, the latter applies to me :( At least there's other things to do...
 

varonica

varonica
Comandante said:
Nice! Thanks for the information.

Looks like I might do a bit more when I get the time. I think you've either got to enjoy doing it, force yourself to like it or just find that it makes you miserable. As hard as I've tried, the latter applies to me :( At least there's other things to do...
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First, only hit the high value items as you travel, ignore everything below around 7m-8m base value, you won't get bored because you aren't doing it all the time but you still get a decent payout at the end. Second, if it is really making you miserable, stop doing it, there's other things to do in the game that I am sure you will enjoy doing.
 

Comandante

Comandante
varonica said:
First, only hit the high value items as you travel, ignore everything below around 7m-8m base value, you won't get bored because you aren't doing it all the time but you still get a decent payout at the end. Second, if it is really making you miserable, stop doing it, there's other things to do in the game that I am sure you will enjoy doing.
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OK; is there a way to tell how much the plant is worth before you scan it? I am not sure what to ignore, if that makes sense.

I tried exo when EDO landed and immediately stopped doing it.

When the new payouts landed, I tried it again and made about 54M Cr in about 40 minutes. Then I stopped doing it again :D Got plenty of things to do, no worries about that! (I love the restore/scavenge missions and deep core mining - in VR, it's awesome!)
 

varonica

varonica
Comandante said:
OK; is there a way to tell how much the plant is worth before you scan it? I am not sure what to ignore, if that makes sense.

I tried exo when EDO landed and immediately stopped doing it.

When the new payouts landed, I tried it again and made about 54M Cr in about 40 minutes. Then I stopped doing it again :D Got plenty of things to do, no worries about that! (I love the restore/scavenge missions and deep core mining - in VR, it's awesome!)
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There are spreadsheets detailing the prices, but if you want it real time the best way is to use Elite Observatory, here's an example of the output you get as you travel;

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Kotoku

Kotoku
Comandante said:
OK; is there a way to tell how much the plant is worth before you scan it? I am not sure what to ignore, if that makes sense.

I tried exo when EDO landed and immediately stopped doing it.

When the new payouts landed, I tried it again and made about 54M Cr in about 40 minutes. Then I stopped doing it again :D Got plenty of things to do, no worries about that! (I love the restore/scavenge missions and deep core mining - in VR, it's awesome!)
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Stratum with bonus ftw.
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dgrafix

D
CMDR Rusty Dog said:
While the new payouts are nice, it's too much. It should at least be half of what it is now. This is silly money for doing essentially not much and risk free.
But what's broken are the Exobiology rankings. The progress to rank up is using the old values. So you can hand in scans from 2-3 bios and jump up 2 ranks straight away.
Possible to even rank up to Elite in one day if you were so inclined.
Frontier need to rebalance the rankings in accordance with the new payouts and those of us who have ranked up so quickly, need to be put back to where we would be with the new ranking balance in place. So basically taking into account every bio scanned since Update 14.
The ranking up now is just ridiculously out of whack.
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Totally disagree. New payouts are exactly worth the time it takes.
As for rank I don't really care about that. Sure let that go up slowly, I care more about the credits.
It was totally pointless before but now it makes about the same as stacked bounty hunting, robigo runs, wing trade missions and mining missions... (Large give or take..)
but before the boost EXO was a joke.

Also if you have played the game for a while credits cannot buy you everything.
 
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Kotoku

Kotoku
dgrafix said:
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Also if you have played the game for a while credits cannot buy you everything.
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Au contraire! They buy a steady stream of salty "them creditz those yungsters make are too easy to get and haz ruined ED I tellz ya, RUINED IT. Back when I were a lad" tears, which I use to water the plants on my magical spaceship dashboard with.
 

dgrafix

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Kotoku said:
Au contraire! They buy a steady stream of salty "them creditz those yungsters make are too easy to get and haz ruined ED I tellz ya, RUINED IT. Back when I were a lad" tears, which I use to water the plants on my magical spaceship dashboard with.
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Lol true. 😆
I meant in regards to engineering etc.. sure you can buy a super expensive ship but it will still get flattened fast without practice and upgrade grind.
 
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