Exploration value formulae

KW001

K
Was there a change to the discovery values in one of the updates during the last 6 months? Cause tonight I got 716K and 406k from a WW and an AM in a bubble system that were obviously tagged long ago. System is LP 102-320, planets (WW) and 4 (AM). Games close dright now but I'm 90% sure 4 was an AM.
 
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Redfox

Redfox
KW001 said:
Was there a change to the discovery values in one of the updates during the last 6 months? Cause tonight I got 716K and 406k from a WW and an AM in a bubble system that were obviously tagged long ago. System is LP 102-320, planets (WW) and 4 (AM). Games close dright now but I'm 90% sure 4 was an AM.
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No, not that I know of.

Those planet types (WW, AW) with those masses (1.96, 3.99) will indeed pay around those amounts.
 

KW001

K
But for previously discovered/tagged? That seems huge. Though I haven't done any real exploring since August and dont pay attention to payouts much anymore. Only noticed it tonight as there were only a handful of systems on the page when I cashed in.
 

Redfox

Redfox
KW001 said:
But for previously discovered/tagged? That seems huge. Though I haven't done any real exploring since August and dont pay attention to payouts much anymore. Only noticed it tonight as there were only a handful of systems on the page when I cashed in.
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Yes, the first discovery bonus would be added on top of those values.

Here are a few charts from a few pages back, showing what payouts to expect from which planet type and depending on its mass:
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Staarlord

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So you don't get a bonus reward out for being the first, or among the top "xx" people to discover that system/ planet? Darn I've been venturing out at least a minimum of 900LY from PP area, in hopes that you get more for undiscovered bodies.
 

Spansh

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Graelock said:
So you don't get a bonus reward out for being the first, or among the top "xx" people to discover that system/ planet? Darn I've been venturing out at least a minimum of 900LY from PP area, in hopes that you get more for undiscovered bodies.
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You do get more for undiscovered bodies, it's added on top of the scan value afterwards
 

Speccy

Speccy
Graelock said:
So you don't get a bonus reward out for being the first, or among the top "xx" people to discover that system/ planet? Darn I've been venturing out at least a minimum of 900LY from PP area, in hopes that you get more for undiscovered bodies.
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You get a 50% first discovery bonus. Well, it's given to the first person to hand the data in, not necessarily the first to discover it. Plus, more importantly, you get your name on it.
 

LP Garnell

LP Garnell
ShamelessRonin said:
Thanks for the info, Seems complicated tho.
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In concept it's not, but in trying to get precise credit figures it is at times.

Payout for planets/moons is based on 1) body type and 2) mass of body. Formulas on first page of this thread. Not surprisingly, Earthlike Worlds and Water Worlds are the highest payouts.

Complicating factor is whether the body is tagged by game as a terraformable candidate. If it is, sometimes you get a substantial bonus for that, sometimes not. Thst's what redfox's chart is about. Not 100% predictable at this time based on data available to us, the players. Substantial middle portion of this thread discusses that.

Lastly, if you scan a currently-untagged body and are the -First- to sell that data to cartographics, you get a 50 % bonus of it's base value. PLUS you're considered the discoverer and that body will be tagged with your name forever.
 

TheShameless

TheShameless
LP Garnell said:
In concept it's not, but in trying to get precise credit figures it is at times.

Payout for planets/moons is based on 1) body type and 2) mass of body. Formulas on first page of this thread. Not surprisingly, Earthlike Worlds and Water Worlds are the highest payouts.

Complicating factor is whether the body is tagged by game as a terraformable candidate. If it is, sometimes you get a substantial bonus for that, sometimes not. Thst's what redfox's chart is about. Not 100% predictable at this time based on data available to us, the players. Substantial middle portion of this thread discusses that.

Lastly, if you scan a currently-untagged body and are the -First- to sell that data to cartographics, you get a 50 % bonus of it's base value. PLUS you're considered the discoverer and that body will be tagged with your name forever.
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Well after really trying this formula it is actually simple to use and can help to predict the value of the data you bring back.
 

Taen

Taen
I visited the Metal-Rich Terraformable (MrT) in BLAICHOAE GX-L D7-13 A 1 and finally got back to a station last night. The sale of said planet yielded 507,621 credits.

I do believe I just made a 100,000 ly trip for a single planet... I had forgotten just how awful it is to locate and sell just one single system. I think I might have rage-quit had I lost my connection to Frontier. :D

I also scanned every single system / object in the BLAICHOAE GX-L D7- boxel. I didn't expect to find anything, and so wasn't disappointed.
 
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CapitanAceRimmer

CapitanAceRimmer
Funny enough I had just run in to the problem of the terraforming bonus k value for Metal Rich Worlds!

Didn't realise there were any.
 
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Valije

Valije
I am about to reach the bubble after my circunnavigation trip and I've been scannin all the valuable planets I came across. Do you still need data for terraformable water worlds or any other kind of scan? I don't mind to spend a bit of time (or a few days) collecting that info if that helps to 3rd party developers or anyone else.
 

Redfox

Redfox
Valije said:
I am about to reach the bubble after my circunnavigation trip and I've been scannin all the valuable planets I came across. Do you still need data for terraformable water worlds or any other kind of scan? I don't mind to spend a bit of time (or a few days) collecting that info if that helps to 3rd party developers or anyone else.
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Adding to the data pool can only help and is surely appreciated all around. Mainly for CFT WW/HMC.
 

iain666

iain666
Corzan06 said:
I recently scanned this systems https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodies/id/372481/name/Pleiades+Sector+JC-V+d2-62 HMC worlds A4 A6 B8 B9 and B10. The values listed on EDSM and EDD do not correspond to anything like the value you get for handing in. If you are supposed to get the 200,000+cr bonus for terraforming then it is broke. As none of these came out anywhere over 40,000cr and I only had a value of 455,000cr for the whole system.
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A6 isn't a CFT according to EDSM...

The terrarforming bonus has a multiplier applied which is between 0 and 1, so you can get nothing extra for a CFT. EDD and EDSM assume 1, and 1 or nearly 1 is most common, but it is not guaranteed and 0 happens.

The values in EDD and EDSM are accurate to a credit when terraforming is not involved, they are very much best case scenarios when it is and you could get less.

One day, hopefully, we'll figure it out but these are just estimates, not guarantees of in-game pay outs.
 

Corzan06

C
Yes sorry you are correct A6 is not a CFT but A5 is a CFT/WW and only had a value of 216,959cr offered for it. I wonder if they have removed the terraform bonus if the planet has already been discovered?
 
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