External View [A definitive discussion]

An External View yes or no, Multiple choice

  • Yes: an External View for Combat

    Votes: 28 8.8%
  • No: This will break immersion fo me

    Votes: 117 36.6%
  • Yes: I want to know from where I am being attacked from

    Votes: 16 5.0%
  • No: the Scanner is all you need.

    Votes: 103 32.2%
  • Yes: a Simple external ship viewer None Combat

    Votes: 161 50.3%
  • No: Keep everything within the ship

    Votes: 105 32.8%

  • Total voters
    320
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Sweet! Good job FDev, it's looking like 1.2 could be a great patch. Just make sure you listen to testers this time though please... feel free to delay it an extra week if there's anything gamebreaking!
 
OK! We have some information from Michael!

Can the debug camera be used to get shots of from various angles/distances around your ship? - Yes
Can the debug camera be used to in effect get a cockpit/HUDless screenshot? - Yes
In Supercruise? - Yes
In standard flight? - Yes
 
So excited, I wonder if it will be visible, fly it to a buddy and mock up some sort of service drone thingymabob! :D

Nope, unfortunately not, an invisible camera with no power or storage requirements. So no new "photography" or "spy/private detective" missions to go along side.
Hopefully one day it will be fully implemented though.
 
Nope, unfortunately not, an invisible camera with no power or storage requirements. So no new "photography" or "spy/private detective" missions to go along side.
Hopefully one day it will be fully implemented though.

Ah well, still chuffed -- OOOOooo high rez selfies in solo!
 
OK! We have some information from Michael!

Can the debug camera be used to get shots of from various angles/distances around your ship? - Yes
Can the debug camera be used to in effect get a cockpit/HUDless screenshot? - Yes
In Supercruise? - Yes
In standard flight? - Yes

Well congrats OP - you got what you wanted!

10 out of 10 for perseverance, and it goes to show that if you approach a request in a courteous fashion, it can be granted.

Consider my cap doffed.
 
Well congrats OP - you got what you wanted!

10 out of 10 for perseverance, and it goes to show that if you approach a request in a courteous fashion, it can be granted.

Consider my cap doffed.

Fingers crossed... Looking good all round! Just the cockpit/HUDless images will make many people happy alone! Yet alone being able to do all of this and videoing it!

Means I can put my signature back to what it used to be too :)
 
Ah well, still chuffed -- OOOOooo high rez selfies in solo!

Yeah this is why its rather disappointing to me, I can already do this in my clipper (well not the selfie part :-D), its top window is big enough to not have any part of the ship in view while taking a picture.
Plus with all the other half implemented stuff that is in game, with no word from the Devs if these will ever be improved, will this half implemented idea (its a debug tool at the end of the day) ever be fully fleshed? and how long will it take? Naval progression missions are one of the worst things in the entire game and havnt been touched once in over 2 month so far, so my trust that these things will ever be improved gets less and less by the update.
 
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Thanks for.... something that is absolutely basic to have in any such game. I'm glad it's coming...it should have been there long ago. And i don't mean to fly your ship from 3rd person, i hate this, but to take screenshots and marvel at my ships.... the way a lot of ship functions work in ED, it would be pretty impossible to efficiently fly your ship form eternal view anyway, For one you couldn't access your screens.

I read that DB thought it was unrealistic earlier in this thread?...i'm a bit bored with the devs apparent insistence on realism. You do realise the whole concept of the game itself is utterly unrealistic right? And... like... oh ships have to be symmetrical because otherwise atmospheric flight will make no sense....yeah it IS a game. You could decide to make a brick fly if you wanted to. There comes a time when someone can just be too much of a nerd about certain things.... i say.
 
Yeah this is why its rather disappointing to me, I can already do this in my clipper (well not the selfie part :-D), its top window is big enough to not have any part of the ship in view while taking a picture.
Plus with all the other half implemented stuff that is in game, with no word from the Devs if these will ever be improved, will this half implemented idea (its a debug tool at the end of the day) ever be fully fleshed? and how long will it take? Naval progression missions are one of the worst things in the entire game and havnt been touched once in over 2 month so far, so my trust that these things will ever be improved gets less and less by the update.

Well, I can't be negative about this, many people have asked for an external view and now we have been given the debug cam. It's a massive plus for me personally, content creators will be toasting to FD Tonight!
 
Forgive me if I don't entirely understand the logic between giving us access to a simple debug tool instead of actually developing the vanity camera mechanic. I want to be able to see my own ship, sure, but actually using the game's features and making sense in the universe. For something so minor I was happy to wait until it was actually developed. I bet this will never go beyond the debug camera if the peanut gallery finds it satisfactory, ending up on the backburner until the heath death of the universe, along with every other feature they promised would improve past its initial state.
 
Yes... that's right! An External View!



Oh My!

Thank you FD! Thank you SO much!

Lost for words... Brilliant!

We have waited a long time for this!

AWESOME!

Nutter

As much as I welcome this, it's been too damn long coming and could've/should've been enabled since release.

Pleased but not pleased, know what I sayin'?
 
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yes. they did the thing we wanted them to do. now let's complain about how long it took them to do it. because all things we want should be done immediately at all times.
 
Forgive me if I don't entirely understand the logic between giving us access to a simple debug tool instead of actually developing the vanity camera mechanic. I want to be able to see my own ship, sure, but actually using the game's features and making sense in the universe. For something so minor I was happy to wait until it was actually developed. I bet this will never go beyond the debug camera if the peanut gallery finds it satisfactory, ending up on the backburner until the heath death of the universe, along with every other feature they promised would improve past its initial state.

+1 this is more or less the point ive been trying to make in the update thread.
It will go the same way as every other system in game: good enough - move on - forget :-(
 
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