FAOFF Appreciation thread



The nasty text he sent you was unnecessary. It's just a game.

About the Python. You can't use a Python like an FDL. If you try you will lose every time. Forget chaff. Load 3 A Class Shield Boosters and 1 heat sink. Also put the highest class shield on it you can afford. Also pack in as much hull reinforcement as will fit. I know, I know. What about cargo? Forget cargo. If you are rigging it as a gunship, then you don't need cargo. You need armor. Also fit it with military class bulkheads. The load out looked right although I would have used pulse lasers instead of multi-cannons, but that's just personal preference. Those 3 Class 3 beam lasers are what you need and are the reason you need a heat sink. Now here's the really vital part. Speed control is critical. If you keep it in the blue zone you can maneuver very well with FAOff. As good a Cobra, FDL, Viper etc.? Of course not. But you will run rings around most smaller ships that use FAOn. When I had my Python, I fought eagles and they couldn't hide from me when I was using FAOff. With FAOn, I had no chance. With FAOff, they had no chance.

But even with that, in that FDL, you'd eat me in a Python for lunch. And that's fine. I don't mind bowing to a pilot with superior skills. That's just incentive to improve my own skills.

Thank you my friend. I think that is my problem, I am trying to use the Python like I handle the FDL and that is why I am getting destroyed. That being said, that was an A spec Python over 200mil, so yeah the Python is not for me after all.
 
Thank you my friend. I think that is my problem, I am trying to use the Python like I handle the FDL and that is why I am getting destroyed. That being said, that was an A spec Python over 200mil, so yeah the Python is not for me after all.
Well the python is just a armored trader. so it should lose to a combat ship. also, the python really is a support ship for combat. so dont feel bad for it. in two v two, its far better.
 
Elite Dangerous Beta 1.5.3: The Upgrade (Flight assist off)

Testing the new FDL upgrades. My opinion It is a beast and I have a total of 850mj raw shield power, not including the SCBs. In Beta 1.5.2 I used to lose my shields a lot, but that is not going happen that often now. Amazing

Loving my new shining FDL so far, I feel like I got my money worth for 50mil price tag. That being said, now I have to deal with a bunch of newbies pretending they know how to fly one. When they lose they call you SCB hoarder, lol.
To all new FDL owners across the galaxy, just because you are now running 4 rails is not going to make you invincible, you need to tame the beast first and is not going to happen in one day. Jesse out

[video=youtube;7ebmMUh7O6I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ebmMUh7O6I[/video]
 
Elite Dangerous Beta 1.5.3: The Upgrade (Flight assist off)

Testing the new FDL upgrades. My opinion It is a beast and I have a total of 850mj raw shield power, not including the SCBs. In Beta 1.5.2 I used to lose my shields a lot, but that is not going happen that often now. Amazing

Loving my new shining FDL so far, I feel like I got my money worth for 50mil price tag. That being said, now I have to deal with a bunch of newbies pretending they know how to fly one. When they lose they call you SCB hoarder, lol.
To all new FDL owners across the galaxy, just because you are now running 4 rails is not going to make you invincible, you need to tame the beast first and is not going to happen in one day. Jesse out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ebmMUh7O6I

So let 'em call you a scb hoarder. And what if you actually are? I'm not saying you are, but what's wrong with it? This is Elite: Dangerous, not Elite: Carebear. It's dangerous out there. If they can't take the heat then they need to high wake out.
 
Just had a chance to watch the video in full screen on Youtube and it sounds to me like he didn't know how to do a proper loadout. And as for SCB Wh*re, so what? You won.

There is no way someone who's not a total sharpshooter is going to beat you with 4 rails mounted; and even someone who knows how to aim and is great at it is going to have a bad time of it. Maybe if they were gimbaled, but rails are always fixed. To your opponent I say, Load up some beams and either pulse lasers or multi-cannons. Get rid of those 4 rails. There as useless as teats on a bore hog. And get used to the fact that people use SCB's. Calling them names like that accomplishes nothing (except maybe making you feel better).

To you, Jesse, you are one great PvP pilot. I would love to have the honor of fighting you once I get back up to speed. I know I'd get my tail kicked, but that's how you learn.
 
Just had a chance to watch the video in full screen on Youtube and it sounds to me like he didn't know how to do a proper loadout. And as for SCB Wh*re, so what? You won.

There is no way someone who's not a total sharpshooter is going to beat you with 4 rails mounted; and even someone who knows how to aim and is great at it is going to have a bad time of it. Maybe if they were gimbaled, but rails are always fixed. To your opponent I say, Load up some beams and either pulse lasers or multi-cannons. Get rid of those 4 rails. There as useless as teats on a bore hog. And get used to the fact that people use SCB's. Calling them names like that accomplishes nothing (except maybe making you feel better).

To you, Jesse, you are one great PvP pilot. I would love to have the honor of fighting you once I get back up to speed. I know I'd get my tail kicked, but that's how you learn.
Thank you buddy that means a lot to me. I was so :):):):):):) about his text when I read it, on top of that, I was changing my baby when he sneaked up on me from behind like a rat and shot me point blank with 4 rails, he almost drop my shields. What he didn't know I know how to counter rails really well, I am always on the move if I know you have rails, people just don't use their head sometimes and expect to win. You got to remember this is Beta and he was running for his life like he was going to lose credits. I laugh at him now, then he got the nerve to tell me I was one of those who likes to shoot up Eagles, hahahha. His rank was ELITE what a joke.
 
I'd never use an all-rail loadout. Rails against a small, agile target = FAIL. You'll hardly ever hit and there's not enough ammo.

I have a Rail on my Courier and use it against larger ships once the shields are down. I've never yet been able to hit an Eagle with it.
 
I'd never use an all-rail loadout. Rails against a small, agile target = FAIL. You'll hardly ever hit and there's not enough ammo.

I have a Rail on my Courier and use it against larger ships once the shields are down. I've never yet been able to hit an Eagle with it.
That is why I dont understand when people brag about rails loadout, "I could drop my targets shields in ten sec", yeah right? Rails vs FAoff and boost good luck. They might hit me once or twice but that's not enough to drop my shields.
 
Thank you buddy that means a lot to me. I was so :):):):):):) about his text when I read it, on top of that, I was changing my baby when he sneaked up on me from behind like a rat and shot me point blank with 4 rails, he almost drop my shields. What he didn't know I know how to counter rails really well, I am always on the move if I know you have rails, people just don't use their head sometimes and expect to win. You got to remember this is Beta and he was running for his life like he was going to lose credits. I laugh at him now, then he got the nerve to tell me I was one of those who likes to shoot up Eagles, hahahha. His rank was ELITE what a joke.

Sure. He was Elite alright. But Elite vs NPC's is not the same as Elite vs other Cmdr's. It's fairly hard to get an Elite rating against NPC's. Against other Cmdrs, it's all but impossible. Not totally impossible, which is why I say "all but". But it ain't no cake walk, that's for sure. You're one of the few who I believe could actually achieve an Elite rating against other humans. You know your craft, its capabilities and how to use it to best effect. That's the definition of a great pilot.

Oh, and I haven't said anything before now, but I am a woman. I say this because of the buddy and man comments. I'm not a man, but I'm not offended as you didn't know.
 
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Sure. He was Elite alright. But Elite vs NPC's is not the same as Elite vs other Cmdr's. It's fairly hard to get an Elite rating against NPC's. Against other Cmdrs, it's all but impossible. Not totally impossible, which is why I say "all but". But it ain't no cake walk, that's for sure. You're one of the few who I believe could actually achieve an Elite rating against other humans. You know your craft, its capabilities and how to use it to best effect. That's the definition of a great pilot.

Oh, and I haven't said anything before now, but I am a woman. I say this because of the buddy and man comments. I'm not a man, but I'm not offended as you didn't know.
wow I am sorry like you said I did not know, oops. but, again thank for believing in me I am actually beatable as long you stick to the basic
 
wow I am sorry like you said I did not know, oops. but, again thank for believing in me I am actually beatable as long you stick to the basic

And that's another aspect of a great pilot: Knowing and admitting (if to no one else but him/herself) that he/she can be beaten and is not invincible.

On another note, I have just recently had a very bad experience with FAOff. As I've said before, I use it to get lined up when docking. Well, just today, I left the assist off just a bit too long when lining up for an outpost and got a pad loitering warning. Not sure how I did it, but I somehow jammed my ship against some structure on the station and couldn't move. Finally got it untangled just as the loitering warning expired. The station became lethally annoyed with me and swatted me like a fly. No biggie, right? Well, kind of. I play conditional ironman mode. Which means when I'm killed I let a dice or random number generator decide what happens. I use Mossfoot's pilot ejection table. I rolled a natural 1. For those of you who don't know about the pilot ejection table, a natural 1 is character death regardless of modifiers. So I cleared my save. But it's fine, I know what I'm doing and will be back up to speed fairly quickly. Actually starting over is kind of fun.

I know, I know. It seems so terrible. You lose everything. Well, no. Not everything. Sure, you lose your ship, your credits, your ratings. But you don't lose the experience you've gained and that counts for a whole lot. When people do it, they are amazed. They ask, Was I really that bad when I first started? Yep. Sure were. You were a raw newbie who didn't know how to fly, dock, trade, smuggle, fight etc. You sure didn't know how to handle a ship with FAOff. But now you do know all that stuff. Well, maybe not the FAOff unless you're like the ones in this thread, but you know the important stuff about how to make money and that allows you to progress so much faster.

 


And that's another aspect of a great pilot: Knowing and admitting (if to no one else but him/herself) that he/she can be beaten and is not invincible.

On another note, I have just recently had a very bad experience with FAOff. As I've said before, I use it to get lined up when docking. Well, just today, I left the assist off just a bit too long when lining up for an outpost and got a pad loitering warning. Not sure how I did it, but I somehow jammed my ship against some structure on the station and couldn't move. Finally got it untangled just as the loitering warning expired. The station became lethally annoyed with me and swatted me like a fly. No biggie, right? Well, kind of. I play conditional ironman mode. Which means when I'm killed I let a dice or random number generator decide what happens. I use Mossfoot's pilot ejection table. I rolled a natural 1. For those of you who don't know about the pilot ejection table, a natural 1 is character death regardless of modifiers. So I cleared my save. But it's fine, I know what I'm doing and will be back up to speed fairly quickly. Actually starting over is kind of fun.

I know, I know. It seems so terrible. You lose everything. Well, no. Not everything. Sure, you lose your ship, your credits, your ratings. But you don't lose the experience you've gained and that counts for a whole lot. When people do it, they are amazed. They ask, Was I really that bad when I first started? Yep. Sure were. You were a raw newbie who didn't know how to fly, dock, trade, smuggle, fight etc. You sure didn't know how to handle a ship with FAOff. But now you do know all that stuff. Well, maybe not the FAOff unless you're like the ones in this thread, but you know the important stuff about how to make money and that allows you to progress so much faster.

Wow amazing story, I didn't know you were doing iron mode in your own terms, you got my respect for that, wish you a speedy recovery but at the same time you didn't lose your experience and you will back in feet in no time. Actually I had more fun with the smaller ships than I do now, and that is why I still jump in a Viper from time to time so much fun to fly. I will give you more rep but they won't let me at moment. I own you one
 
I put together a video of a few landings I've saved since I started with FA off. I really enjoy trying out the different ships and seeing how far I can push them without punching out the back of the station.

[video=youtube;-ixcGgwu51E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixcGgwu51E[/video]

I have lost many, many ships this way...
 
People continue to tell me that I am doing it wrong for using forward-only throttle. My throttle doesn't have a physical detent and adding a deadzone only helped a little because the game provides only minimal feedback as to whether I'd hit the deadzone or not, so full-range wasn't working for me.

So I've now updated my TARGET script to eliminate the deadzone entirely, apply a dampening curve and illuminate the throttle unit backlight when the throttle is centred. I'm finding it much easier to hit the centre now; the thing lights up pretty brightly and catches my eye quite nicely even when I'm looking ahead at the screens. I did a few Onion Head runs over the weekend and only crashed into one other player - who was going too slowly anyway - and that was because I didn't apply enough lateral thrust to compensate for the station artificial gravity; nothing to do with my throttle settings.

Next step will be probably be modifying the throttle curve to give more sensitivity for forward thrust compared to reverse, as hitting the top of the blue zone in supercruise is still a bit tricky with effectively half resolution on the throttle.
 
People continue to tell me that I am doing it wrong for using forward-only throttle. My throttle doesn't have a physical detent and adding a deadzone only helped a little because the game provides only minimal feedback as to whether I'd hit the deadzone or not, so full-range wasn't working for me.

So I've now updated my TARGET script to eliminate the deadzone entirely, apply a dampening curve and illuminate the throttle unit backlight when the throttle is centred. I'm finding it much easier to hit the centre now; the thing lights up pretty brightly and catches my eye quite nicely even when I'm looking ahead at the screens. I did a few Onion Head runs over the weekend and only crashed into one other player - who was going too slowly anyway - and that was because I didn't apply enough lateral thrust to compensate for the station artificial gravity; nothing to do with my throttle settings.

Next step will be probably be modifying the throttle curve to give more sensitivity for forward thrust compared to reverse, as hitting the top of the blue zone in supercruise is still a bit tricky with effectively half resolution on the throttle.

If you're doing it wrong by using forward-only throttle, then so am I. You're only doing it wrong if you aren't comfortable with the setup. A control setup in ED is almost as unique as fingerprints. There might be a few duplications as there just isn't a wide enough variety, but there are hundreds (at least) of different combinations and permutations that can be used. Find the one that best suits you and stick to it. If others tell you you're doing it wrong, keep in mind that it is wrong for them. What works best for others won't necessarily work best for you and vice versa.
 
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