Have you proffered an opinion on what David Braben's 'I think some of you can guess what's coming' from the 3.1 launch livestream means yet?
FDEV - could we get dev diary back please?
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Have you proffered an opinion on what David Braben's 'I think some of you can guess what's coming' from the 3.1 launch livestream means yet?
Dev diaries with "grid girls" - we should discus the politics of that and then have a vote.
Yep it means new stuff, I'm not sweating about it beyond that.
dayrth
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It's already got a spoiler.Ship kits for the Viper Mk4 - I can dream
BTW, I would like to see the dev diary return.
My memory is that the last time they asked for feedback somebody threatened to sue them.
They also got a meltdown when they announced an announcement so it's not like they can tell us when to expect updates.
This has been mentioned a few times recently, is there a link for this?
I have asked the community team for the dev diaries to return (even done retrospectively - videos of "this is how we did it" after the release), face to face at two consecutive LaveCons. Hasn't happened so far. Probably won't. They did do a ship-building article for a magazine (PC Gamer?), but it was promotion for the 3.1 launch, not something for the community as such.
Simple economics. Time is money. Frontier already has the money. Why waste it selling a game to people who already bought it? That sounds jaded, but it's just business sense. They don't need to give people the "warm-and-fuzzies" like they did during the KickStarter. Doing that would occupy staff who could be making or selling something new.
It's not the answer I'd like, but it's the one most likely to be true.
Frontier DO communicate with their player-base - just Tweet Paige Harvey or Frontier Help and you get a response in minutes. They just are not going to lay out the next 6 months dev plan and a bunch of concept art on request.
Maybe if they switched the Newsletter email to monthly instead of weekly, so it had more weight to it? That way they could used the time saved to make something a little more in-depth. These days it's pretty light.
Simple economics. Time is money. Frontier already has the money. Why waste it selling a game to people who already bought it? That sounds jaded, but it's just business sense. They don't need to give people the "warm-and-fuzzies" like they did during the KickStarter. Doing that would occupy staff who could be making or selling something new.
It's not the answer I'd like, but it's the one most likely to be true.
Frontier DO communicate with their player-base - just Tweet Paige Harvey or Frontier Help and you get a response in minutes. They just are not going to lay out the next 6 months dev plan and a bunch of concept art on request.
Maybe if they switched the Newsletter email to monthly instead of weekly, so it had more weight to it? That way they could used the time saved to make something a little more in-depth. These days it's pretty light.
Dev diaries was a thing when the game was #1 in development and as much hype and discussion was needed to make sure a lot of people will buy it and will discuss it.
It won't be like that ever. So they will not return.
Horizons stretching for 2 years instead of 1, now this 'Beyond' and overall feeling of the game drastically slowed down after year 1.... come on guys, it's year 4 almost done, who are we fooling? Don't you see the trend here? This trend is going for years already.
Yes, they try to mimic some kind of communication. Focused Forum feedback is perfect example, hehe.
The game is not dead yet, but it's kinda naive to think it will mysteriously return to the level of development/discussion as it was before release/first year.
Things just doesn't work this way. Not with FD.
Do you really think they've developed 2 major games now and suddenly they'll adjust a slider to 80% to ED? ...
Yeah, right.
It won't be like that ever. So they will not return.
Horizons stretching for 2 years instead of 1, now this 'Beyond' and overall feeling of the game drastically slowed down after year 1.... come on guys, it's year 4 almost done, who are we fooling? Don't you see the trend here? This trend is going for years already.
Yes, they try to mimic some kind of communication. Focused Forum feedback is perfect example, hehe.
The game is not dead yet, but it's kinda naive to think it will mysteriously return to the level of development/discussion as it was before release/first year.
Things just doesn't work this way. Not with FD.
Do you really think they've developed 2 major games now and suddenly they'll adjust a slider to 80% to ED? ...
Yeah, right.
Rafe Zetter
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Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
Except digital ones obviously.
You are probably correct with this statement.
But the question remains, why would FD make a trailer with so much detail around walking and accessing the ship?
Are they just trolling us to say "Haha, look at what you could have had; if we could be bothered"
We are 4 years in for sure and this game is definitely entering Maintenance mode (if not already there).
IMO the QoL improvements in Q4 will be the last of the big game additions (as well as the Paid for content which I believe will probably be ships or variations of the SRV).
FD are most likely already shifting towards their next big IP (Game) so i doubt they will push a lot of resources into ED now.
The "team" will have had just over 12 months to implement the QOL changes and the paid DLC by the time we get to Q4 - Realistically, how much extra content do you really think they could have created in such a short amount of time?
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People just really want space legs and see it where it isn't.
Compare it with a car advert, people walk towards them put things in them all sorts of stuff totally unrelated to the actual car it doesn't mean they are advertising the trainers the drivers wearing.
I think an actual space legs teaser would be more like a few seconds of Blair Witch style really grainy FPS footage from the FPS perspective that ends in a flash and signal lost, in the background of a news report of ground fighting at location X.
A direct trailer for it would be really really obvious, as in zoom in to the pilot. Shift to pilot perspective pilot stands up and wanders to the bulkhead door checking a screen on his way past pushes a button and it opens walk down the corridor and so on sort of obvious.
That comparison doesn't work, because the car adverts usually have the people doing things that are actually possible - If the dude is wearing Nike air max trainers, you could buy the car and go buy some Nike air max trainers.
In ED, if the dude is walking to his ship, and walking into the ship, you can buy the ship but you cant buy the ability to walk!
Now, if you mentioned the Renault Star Wars advert where the mum is driving next to the hover train and Chewbacca is on it, that might have worked as a comparison
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Now, if you mentioned the Renault star wards advert where the mum is driving next to the hover train and Chewbacca is on it, that might have worked as a comparison
Not often someone refutes their own post
Not often someone refutes their own post
Hey, i'm not saying don't make comparisons to adverts, just make comparisons to ones that make sense
Hey, i'm not saying don't make comparisons to adverts, just make comparisons to ones that make sense
Well according to this top 10 car vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuXJwR7SKok car workers use their laser eyes and metal teeth to build the cars, which dogs then drive, and hondas transform into hot air balloons. Adverts exaggerate, or fill in to make a story. Unless you really believe they are supposed to be factually accurate at all times
Well according to this top 10 car vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuXJwR7SKok car workers use their laser eyes and metal teeth to build the cars, which dogs then drive, and hondas transform into hot air balloons. Adverts exaggerate, or fill in to make a story. Unless you really believe they are supposed to be factually accurate at all times
I think it's very easy to make statments about how obvious something was in hindsight.
That comparison doesn't work, because the car adverts usually have the people doing things that are actually possible - If the dude is wearing Nike air max trainers, you could buy the car and go buy some Nike air max trainers.
In ED, if the dude is walking to his ship, and walking into the ship, you can buy the ship but you cant buy the ability to walk!
Now, if you mentioned the Renault Star Wars advert where the mum is driving next to the hover train and Chewbacca is on it, that might have worked as a comparison
The fact you've successfully identified them as car adverts means you get my point
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