In the end its how they build it so be it. It would make more sense if there was no holo at all and instead let us be a clones where our consiousness is transfered to that clone and oyr real body is just in stasis on planet or station. It would also make more sense to our ressurection capability when we die. Multicrew would be sorted out too with that, except clones for anybody that joins your ship are sort of like mix of biological and technological engineering so their faces adjust to whatever cmdr looks like and those clones are permanently on your ship in clone stasis. It would also sort out question as why data need to be delivered physically while hologram can be trasmited across vast distances. But as I said its their game so be it. I personally do not want character creator at all.
Feedback from CMDR creator tool (The i am hologram, lore explanation and its placement on UI)
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Did you even notice you can actually change your AGE in this "holo-me" thingie?
You are making up excuses for FD as you go, don't you?
Just listen to yourself, man! How does my physical presence or absence at the station actually PROVES I did kill something? Either way they have to rely on my ship's stored data. And it doesn't matter HOW this data is transferred.
Much like with the credit card - you can pay online, nobody is forcing you to actually go somewhere holding card in hand to confirm the payment.
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True that. Oh well.
Still...
Spaceships! In space! Now with faces! In space!
Im so horny right now.
Easy solution really. Why cant I telepresence into the faction headquarters. Surely they could afford a telepresence emitter. I have stated and so most others it's not the instant (why are people desperately trying to defend instant unlimited range telepresence), it's the telepresence. As stated there are far far better ways to implement it.
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ideally lore is not something which should be fiddled with willy nilly imo.... that is what makes a good story, having certain "rules" and the writer come up with good intelligent ways to make the most of them.
And... I have read some of MBs work so I KNOW FD have at least 1 talented writer (probably 2, maybe more but i have not had the pleasure of any of SJAs work) not to mention all the official authors for the canon novels.
the lore says telepresence works with a limit of 3km (iirc - i am not certain exactly)..... so that is that. Sure maybe you could argue space statons have high powered transmitters (a bit weak but it does not break existing rules) but i imagine there would be lots of complaints if you had to be docked to MC
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Yes I did, that is the future... instant body changes.
I wouldn't mind some cool-down period.I'm giving you some plausible reasons.
Because they want biometric verification that you did it.
Yeah, but if you want a mortgage or some big loan you have to come in-person if you're not already a customer.
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I was under the impression you could now cash in bounties remotely for a fee at stations with the tech to do it. Also pay fines and sell ships remotely
I do feel after reading some more of this thread, that FD could save themselves so much negativity if this was just moved it over to the main options menu and out of the ship. Or maybe that's just a personal wish or its my holo me posting this.
As for the whole, am I aren't I a hologram..who knows its all get a bit messy now. I know its only a name but dear oh dear...
I agree with half of the argument and agree with the other half if I can do one thing as a hologram why cant I do another, where is the line drawn.
As for the whole, am I aren't I a hologram..who knows its all get a bit messy now. I know its only a name but dear oh dear...
I agree with half of the argument and agree with the other half if I can do one thing as a hologram why cant I do another, where is the line drawn.
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I'm not sure stations would be very keen on holograms entering the sation without being cleared through the dock. All they would need is some signal jamming and you're blocked. Who knows who you could be talking to, plotting with, or against .. I think the controlling faction would prefer to keep tabs, on who's on station.
That's a (person contact), interstellar factor. So not remote (phoned in) but a contact, on the station?
He or she seems to be paid up with the right people and likely the factors work as a network together I'd guess. I just imagine a Bookie lol.
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Yes I did, that is the future... instant body changes.
So in this universe Emperor can age and die, or be killed, while some lousy noob CMDR with 1000 Cr on him is in fact immortal race/age/gender/features swapping/changing being. Does it make sense to you?
Again, with you being present there they can reliably authenticate you, but it doesn't prove you actually DID something!
Come on, you did play the game.
Situation: you attack someone.
Ship being attacked transmits you data REMOTELY to local authorities, then dies. Based on this REMOTELY received data from single ship authorities pretty much sign you death warrant in this system by issuing bounty on you. If this method is good enough for condemning people to death it's good enough to receive payments as well.
Situation: you scan someone.
While scanning you pull up data on the ship from the local authorities, and based on this data, if the person is wanted, you can legally kill this ship. Note that the data is being received REMOTELY. If this method is good enough for condemning people to death it's good enough to receive payments as well.
You can, but you still have to visit the station to do it. And I want to do it remotely. My gameplay is 80% coming to/from the stations in SC.
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I see the thread has descended into the usual arguments about how this feature 'works' in game. Come on guys just get over it, it doesn't matter.
My only issue with the Commander Creator is that in reality its just a head creator as there is no way to change the body shape size, for obvious reason as otherwise the seats would need to adjust accordingly. However its a good start and hopefully they can apply the tech to contacts as well as that would make the game feel a lot more alive.
My only issue with the Commander Creator is that in reality its just a head creator as there is no way to change the body shape size, for obvious reason as otherwise the seats would need to adjust accordingly. However its a good start and hopefully they can apply the tech to contacts as well as that would make the game feel a lot more alive.
Didn't you appreciate how every single commander would have the same chubby belly and extra-thin arms and legs?
Have a look at Progenitor Cells in the Commodities info panel.
Come on now, real world time.
Authorities don't care if people blow each other to bits in outer space! That's up to them, just don't do it around 'our station'.
But handing over cash money!!?? How many authorities do you know, won't make you fill out a form and do their very best NOT to pay you? They're at their happiest when you take out a criminal for them, and then get killed on your way to collect the bounty! It's a win win for them, no more criminal, and no money out of their budgets?
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This is actually my preferred option for multicrew formation.
The compromise position should be that the potential guest Commanders must first dock at a Station, which then allows them to instantly multicrew with other Commanders who have an active Open Crew Slot within an arbitrary distance radius, something like 50-100LYs, which will preserve a sense of scale and geography in the setting.
Docked Guest Commanders would then have a "fade-to-black", and would then appear PHYSICALLY ON BOARD the host ship (no holograms needed!).
This fade-to-black would be the bit where we all suspend our disbelief, not much different from getting picked up from an escape pod "off-screen", or physically getting into the SRV "off-screen" like we already accept.
Alternatively, if two Commanders decide they want to Crew up but are too far away from a Station, then they can Crew up by instancing together in open space, at which point the Guests again fade-to-black to arrive PHYSICALLY on the host ship, and then their own ship is simply "Dismissed" away, just like we do on Planets when we're driving the SRV.
This uses current established lore, minimises our suspension of disbelief to levels similar levels to what we're already used to with death / rebuy.
There would be no need to invoke ill-thought out & setting-breaking disruptive technology, and it would give the feature sensible limits that don't undermine it's effectiveness, whilst maintaining all the other design features that get broken by insta-teleporting across unlimited distance.
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With you Cmdr, but one step at a time I reckon. Because I also reckon Frontier are with this too, and that's why you have the Hologram meme; no 'thing' is being insta-teleported (unless you count a signal as a thing). I genuinely think multi-crew opens up options for 'real world' ship boarding later but, because that's not ready yet, holograms get you half-way there. Pretty standard sci-fi too, holograms plus Quantum Entanglement (check out EPR and paradox theories) even give faster-than-light (information) sends, in firm 2016 science.
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The point i was making was only about the commander creator. I'm sure to enjoy the rest of 2.3 gameplay enhancements.
This. Can`t belive people don`t understand that. I knew instinctively. Facepalm.
Love this Character Creator, in fact, it was a decision maker when buying the whole Commander pack. I love 1st person too. I don`t care if I can`t see myself most of the time. I play games like Morrowind/Fallout 3, etc in 1st person exclusively, yet spend HOURS making my character look just right in character creation before i start.
I sometimes use 3rd person to see myself, but if they had mirrors I would`ve used that.
Also, I actually would have had no problem if I had to dock at a station to use the Character Creation. In fact i wish it did. Most rpgs make you have to go somewhere and even have to pay cash if you want to change your look. Makes sense.
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You're saying a faction would hamstring itself by not using such a great technology. Cartographics getting real time updates on discovered systems. Man that is crazy. It doesn't make any sense what so ever.
Please use some logic.
And you are still desperately trying to defend it for no reason at all when there are far better ways to implement it. Why?
Or, if you prefer: It's not just a mirror, it's a mask. When you fiddle with the settings you're not actually changing your physical form necessarily, you're choosing what your personal holographic projector is going to overlay over your body.
important to one is irrelevant to another. take the P2P nature of the game. for some this essentially "breaks" PvP and is the worst decision FD could have made. For me it works just fine.
one of my pet hates for instance is the cockpits of some of the ships, eg the viper IV even has same wear and tear of the viper III. for some this is a total non issue... for me it basically spoils the ship for me as it just rams in my face that each ship is just a series of checkboxes on a spreadsheet somehere rather than an actual ship........
i am sure somewhere you will have a gripe, and many others will think it is unimportant.