Fer de lance and expected python nerf

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Vultures are coming, I suspect a lot of people will sell their Pythons and buy Vultures.

Along the same lines, when you sell a Python you lose 6-10 million credits in trade-in. That's 1 hour's worth of trading for most Python owners. Very small price to pay for having access to the most ridiculously overpowered combat ship for at least a month.

Sell the Python for a pre Asp combat fighter?
Ha!

Please, its not going to much bigger then the Cobra. Maybe a medium-small and be priced around 4 million if that. At most, 10 million.

Because really, throwing even more small ships at us is totally addressing the wall of nothing post Asp for anything that's not a trader or hauler of some description.
 
A true "pvper" uses the same ship as their enemy, not a stronger ship and then think they used skill to own their opponent.


He's a true quality poster:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=97592&p=1516037&highlight=#post1516037

he became so obsessed with the Python he watched the review video 3 to 4 times every day. That's devotion.

Sell the Python for a pre Asp combat fighter?
Ha!

Please, its not going to much bigger then the Cobra. Maybe a medium-small and be priced around 4 million if that. At most, 10 million.

Because really, throwing even more small ships at us is totally addressing the wall of nothing post Asp for anything that's not a trader or hauler of some description.

A fighter is basically by definition a small combat craft with just 1 pilot. I'm not sure what you're on about, given there are only two fighters in the game right now and they peak at well below 5 million fully geared.

Yes, all these ships above the Asp can be used for trading. Big deal.
 
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Sell the Python for a pre Asp combat fighter?
Ha!

Please, its not going to much bigger then the Cobra. Maybe a medium-small and be priced around 4 million if that. At most, 10 million.

Because really, throwing even more small ships at us is totally addressing the wall of nothing post Asp for anything that's not a trader or hauler of some description.

Where's your proof? Vultures have 2x large hardpoints. 2x 3c beam lasers alone cost 4 million credits. This will be an asp killer.
 
That he made the money doing nothing but A-B trading and somehow thinks he's an authority on combat balance.
lol out of the 700+ that I've killed about 30% was human... it aint how many you kill but who you kill and I can tell you there are some unskilled pilots that play this game.
 
Where's your proof? Vultures have 2x large hardpoints. 2x 3c beam lasers alone cost 4 million credits. This will be an asp killer.

You are wrong. Fixed C3 beam lasers costs 1 177 600 Cr, so it is 2.34M Cr for two of them.

292 WITHOUT shields. Scratch the paint and a good chunk of the win is gone.

Install D3 shield generator and you are protected from scratches and minor collisions quite well and still able to carry 284t of cargo.
 
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Sometimes the old-school FPS community is so much more likeable. A Counter Strike hardcore gamer doesn't cry and complain about having a level playing field against noobs. He just annihilates the noobs on the level playing field using something strange... I think it was called skill or such.

Best thing I have read for a long time and so, so true.
 
A true "pvper" uses the same ship as their enemy, not a stronger ship and then think they used skill to own their opponent. You could try and not insult people too, its not helping your argument.
I agree with you, so get your tush in gear and get a Python... I eat the big fish now.. not sardines
 
Nerf the base Python but keep the stats on the high end one? That's the first suggestion that I've heard that actually makes sense and could actually resolve the issue to everyone's desires. Worth a look. But since some players see that they've "won" the issue they'll do their best to make light of this post.
 
I'd like the ships left alone until at least the full range of ships is in the game and we can see how each piece fits in the game.

Also, if there is no "ultimate trade ship" or "ultimate combat ship" what's the point? Otherwise every ship is a Sidewinder with a bigger price tag.

It's like complaining every sports car should be speed-limited to 60mph or mopeds are at a disadvantage. Not a very strong argument.

Some ships should be better and some should be a lot better. A Python can be tougher than an Anaconda, but it carries less cargo and has a much smaller jump range.

I vote for continued diversity.

I agree. This is also why I hate multiplayer games, everything has to be constantly "tweaked" or "balanced" or "nerfed" and it gets on my t*ts. I bought Elite for single player and I'm going to keep seeing changes that just make things worse because some people kept complaining about multiplayer, fantastic.
 
He's a true quality poster:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=97592&p=1516037&highlight=#post1516037

he became so obsessed with the Python he watched the review video 3 to 4 times every day. That's devotion.



A fighter is basically by definition a small combat craft with just 1 pilot. I'm not sure what you're on about, given there are only two fighters in the game right now and they peak at well below 5 million fully geared.

Yes, all these ships above the Asp can be used for trading. Big deal.

That's the issue right there.

All combat ships in game are fighters, and this trend appears like its going to continue on until the end of the year before we see a combat ship of the Pythons size, instead of armed trade ships.
Please fly ships past the Asp and realize there is no point to them if you are not trading. As it is, you need 18 million to have another set of class 1 and 40 points more shield strength compared to the viper at 2 million. It only gets more and more ridiculous how much you have to shell out to get marginal gains in combat effectiveness.

From there, the only ship that could realistically be taken into combat and be effective enough to justifies its existence outside of trade is the Python, and that's getting hit with the bat, creating disinterest in the vessel.

So, We have Sidewinder(0)> Eagle(150k)>Viper(2 Million)>Asp (20 million)> Python (120 million)> Anaconda(350 million) Adding another ship at 10 million addresses nothing.

Its a wall of nothing for combat players. Even in a Python, you are still making the same amount you where in a Viper.

The Wall becomes a Mountain if you do not cave and trade.
 
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The amount of money people get so quick in the game surprises me. I not over 100.000 and I'm playing for a week now. I have to say that the bountyhunting isn't really paying off at the moment, but it's fun to do.

And fun is the point.

I've been playing on and off for over a month and am rocking a viper with 1/2 mil of kit on it and no cargo hold. Could i make money quicker? Probably....
 
And even the Asp has the "Explorer" right in its' name. Although it's able to fight very well (mainly because if the very good hardpoint placement) it's not a real fighter. The new Vulture will be around the same price range I guess.
 
I agree with you, so get your tush in gear and get a Python... I eat the big fish now.. not sardines

I have a maxed Python...

I don't go looking for smaller ships to fry, i sit in Lave most nights at the nav point with my 2 .5 mill bounty looking for 3-5 Vs 1's.

If a lone pilot attacks me in a small ship i fire back -very occasionally- but mostly i feel bad killing lone pilots as it has next to no challenge. Go youtube and type in my name you'll find me in many such encounters :)

Whats your in game name (send me PM) ill add you, find you and we can pvp for real ;)
 
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I didn't say fixed. 3c gimbals cost 2,396,160 Cr EACH.

Nor did you say gimballed. And fixed are the least expensive and dealing more damage. Taking into account that Vultures are going to have only 2 hard points I'd choose fixed weapons over the gimballed ones as gimballed weapons are countered with chaff too effectively.
 
I have a maxed Python...

I don't go looking for smaller ships to fry i sit in Lave most nights at the nav point with my 2 .5 mill bounty looking for 3-5 Vs 1's.

If a lone pilot attacks me in a small ship very occasionally i fire back but mostly i feel bad killing lone pilots as it has next to no challenge. Go youtube and type in my name you'll find me in many such encounters :)

Whats your in game name (send me PM) ill add you find you and we can pvp for real ;)

2.5 Million Cr bounty you say?
Lave nav point you say?
Thrown the gauntlet I say.
Too bad I don't know anyone in game that would team up and try to take you down, but then again I might just lurk around and try to catch you in a different ship.
 
2.5 Million Cr bounty you say?
Lave nav point you say?
Thrown the gauntlet I say.
Too bad I don't know anyone in game that would team up and try to take you down, but then again I might just lurk around and try to catch you in a different ship.

My only other ship is an anaconda... ;)

Feel free to try though my friend that's the point i hang about there, many have tried and failed ^_^ Bring friends tho !

Last time it took 5 hours ish to kill me and lots of players died trying.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=95771

Not because i'm such a great player tho, just because the Python is strong and i have a bit of experience now with it :)
 
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