Newcomer / Intro Finding Markets With High BUY Prices Without Using Inara/EDDB

[rmblstrp]

Has anybody figured out how to identify systems, state/economy/etc, one's likely to get good prices for minerals? I'd like to do this without having to use Inara or EDDB. I found out that even those are good resources all information is based on PC players scraping games logs while playing and posting them for community use.

For example, I'm curious what criteria causes a market in a particular system to buy Musgravite or Monzanite for 800k per unit.

 

[Para Handy]

Not to actually answer your question but there is an app that lets you track prices in markets without sharing that info to the ED database.

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[CMDRQuainMarln]

On the basis we have access to market data for commodities and share data in the real world, I don't feel using eddb, inara and similar to find the best prices is cheating.

If you really want to try and find a good price yourself, look for systems in boom that are not extraction economies - high tech and manufacturing could be good candidates - and see what prices they will offer. If might not be the optimal sell price, but it should be pretty good, especially if they are a good distance away from rich RESs.

 

[Para Handy]

On the basis we have access to market data for commodities and share data in the real world, I don't feel using eddb, inara and similar to find the best prices is cheating.
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To me the major consideration is the fact that when a good price appears on the database, FCs jump in and flood (or drain) the market so when you turn up with your 100tonne of Monazite the price is suddenly jobbie. Hence I think TCE MkII might be worth me giving it another try since that can keep your market info personal.

I believe the craven acceding of F D to allowing individuals to have FCs rather than them being a squadron asset really mucked some things up.

 

[rmblstrp]

I don't feel it to be cheating, but I would like to know how to find possible markets before they might show up on inara or eddb. Now that I have a FC and can store stuff until I'm ready to sell I'd like to find markets before others do. Especially since the public data is reliant upon PC players with the right setup for sharing their log data while they play.

I feel that with a FC I can take the time, as a mode of endgame play, to go on the hunt for markets myself.

 

[rmblstrp]

I tried figuring out the criteria for a hot market a while back before posting that question here. In taking into consideration the feedback and a second look at top markets for musgravite/monazite/etc, I thought the common thread was BOOM (which is there sometimes), but the seems the common state is EXPANSION. The economy doesn't seem to matter because i've seen systems that are agricultural and the station is tourism. I think the station being in an expansion state might the be prime indicator.

 

[rmblstrp]

I'll amend my previous post. Stations that have both boom/expansion states and are either or both high-tech/refinary might be the right kind combination of factors to find markets before inara/eddb do.

 

[rmblstrp]

Boom + Pirate Attack = Musgravite Markets
Boom + Expansion = Monzanite Markets

I'm not sure if high tech, refinary, or extraction matters but search for stations based on those factors yielded decent market prices at times. Some were being listed on inara. However I did find a market that is looking to buy 16k musgravite at 844k per unit. And it's not on inara!

 

[rmblstrp]

Basically I looked on at the stations listed on Inara with the best prices for a particular mineral and looked for what was common between stations for that mineral. Then I used Inara to find stations which are in state with that criteria (ex Boom + Pirate Attack). Then I went and visited those stations that had the right "Consumed By" economies that weren't listed. What others probably know, but I discovered, is that when you're on the sell tab with the mineral you want to sell selected it'll show other nearby markets prices without you ever having to visit them. Makes it easy if there are several stations that meet the criteria in a single system because you'll only need to visit 1 to see the prices in those markets. I'm still looking for a pattern/correlation between station state and prices for a particular mineral, but that process might work for others as well. I will concede that I may have just gotten lucky finding a top price musgravite market.

I also realized that at the top of each mineral page on Inara it tells you which station economy types will potentially have the best prices for that mineral.

 

[Para Handy]

.... What others probably know, but I discovered, is that when you're on the sell tab with the mineral you want to sell selected it'll show other nearby markets prices without you ever having to visit them. ....l.

I thought that only covered markets in the same system. Have they expanded that coverage? BTW - was this done in Oddity or the real game?

 

[rmblstrp]

I thought that only covered markets in the same system. Have they expanded that coverage? BTW - was this done in Oddity or the real game?

I'm on PS4 so no Odyssey for me. It's definitely same system, but other systems as well. However they could be Odyssey stations/settlements in the other systems because it's broken on console and we get Odyssey market data in-game.

 

[rmblstrp]

Based on the current Inara price reporting for Monzanite, a BOOM state does not appear to be necessary for good prices. Here's what I think are the ingredients for a station's market to be a candidate for good prices. These are for the minerals I typically mine and follow prices for.

Mineral / Faction State
Musgravite / Pirate Attack
Monzanite / Expansion
Void Opal / Investment
Alexandrite / Public Holiday
Grandidierite / Civil Liberty

This is just my best guess at finding a pattern. I looked at the stations for Benitoite and it's mixed in the the states listed above. So...idk...anything with certainty.