Fix PVE ships consistant ablity to high wake all the time. PVE module high damage absorption.
- Thread starter Cugastratos
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Just this. Sometimes they get away, usually they don't.
In a CZ I target the FSD & if I get it down while they still have plenty of hull left (power plant seems to have no effect atm) they will remain to be picked off at the end of the battle, unable to jump.
For mission pirates I target the FSD but their hull usually depletes first (depends on the ship). If they turn to run my targeting the FSD quite often takes out the engines, again preventing them from escaping.
For Custom NPC pirates I get Elite ones because I'm Combat Elite, and they always face tank so hitting the FSD is tricky, they may escape if I'm in a low DPS ship, usually they follow a similar pattern to mission pirates.
I haven't done much RES work in a while, not since before 3.3. I've done a few assassinations but I don't think one has ever lasted long enough to try to jump away because if I'm doing the mission I'll be doing it in a ship suited to the task (ie I know what danger I'm jumping into).
On rare occasions I'll have a wake scanner equipped & will follow their high wake. They always retain damage, and always jump to an anarchy (unpopulated) system. Helpfully they will then interdict me so I can have another go without needing to fit an interdictor myself.
It may be that some of the issues mentioned are related to the player not being the instance host, I usually work alone.
Strange... Sometimes I wonder if everyone is playing the same game...
I've taken down many mission target NPCs (wing assassination, simple assassination), FDLs, vettes, condas, you name it, and I always manage to destroy them before they can high wake...
And I'm in a Vulture.
@OP maybe check your weapons and eventually engineer them.
You should be able to take them down even faster in a combat fitted Anaconda.
I've taken down many mission target NPCs (wing assassination, simple assassination), FDLs, vettes, condas, you name it, and I always manage to destroy them before they can high wake...
And I'm in a Vulture.
@OP maybe check your weapons and eventually engineer them.
You should be able to take them down even faster in a combat fitted Anaconda.
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Yeah. I want NPCs to be smarter without breaking the rules.
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FSD is an internal module. Missiles don't penetrate well (unless engineered to do so). Use missiles against external modules.
So basically the NPCs are cleverer than the average player! They got gud!
Yup, not only do they highwake, they even fly evasive and fit HRPs and MRPs...
OP: take out the FSD with rails (or Multis or bursts) and they will never flee again. Or the drives.
Shocking!
Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. If they should follow the same rules as players, why should they only low wake?
Same here. What's even stranger, when I didn't manage to destroy them before they high wake, they almost always retain their damage. Regardless if I am meeting them in the same system or if I follow their wake. I believe that it's just buggy and only works half the time.
Makes sense.
Never seen them retain damage. Seems they respawn instead of continue in SC. I interdicted a FdL that became a Cobra once in normal space. If I go to the mission target again, new ship is there even if it was 1K Ls behind me in SC. It could have anywhere between 1 to 3 wingmen, inconsistently.
Think he means that a ship at 2% should have lost some abilities. They seem at full strength until they pop if you dont module snipe.
Default target when cycling through targets is hull, correct? And NPCs target our modules, correct?
Plenty of people reported that NPCs retain damage, so I am pretty sure I'm not imagining things.
The claim that NPCs cheat is as old as the forums and yet nobody managed to catch it on video...
I believe their ability to target modules depends on rank. Not sure how that's following different rules.
There are a few things that are indeed different. Such as infinite MC ammo or jumping through planetary bodies. And of course the magical full health return which seems to be a bug because it doesn't happen always. But that's about it.
Not really, the AI ships never jump anywhere, they de-spawn. I wouldn't mind if they actually jumped out, but then I would prefer if they wouldn't simultaneously be right behind me if I low-wake back to SC. Something about having and eating cookies.
They aren't at all consistent, maybe that's to mimic human behavior. I have overwhelming firepower on my Vette, but when the Pirate Lord (Vette) decides to highwake before his shields drop, there's not much I can do to stop him. That happens about 1/10 battles with Pirate Lords. Typically they try to highwake too late. They rarely fight to the death anymore.
I have had luck using SP rails for this. If I am ever taking pirate missions I make sure and target the FSD right away, especially if it is an Annie, and start hammering it. Smaller ships are usually not an issue.
I had one drop into a CNB at 17% once. Only time I ever saw an NPC enter a site already damaged (in Solo).Plenty of people reported that NPCs retain damage, so I am pretty sure I'm not imagining things.
This ^
Which is why I ram them until their shields drop and maybe get one in for good measure. They don't respond nor do their wingmates. I get them to 75% before I even engage. Sucks from a role playing perspective but when they can magically heal upon SC, then you gotta do what you gotta do. Can't let them terrorize poor haulers.