ANNOUNCEMENT Fleet Carriers - Content Reveal Announcement

No, they cannot.
They mentioned this before, and you wont be able to fly it. It will jump into a system and it will be static

They also said only one carrier per instance, so there won't be carrier to carrier battles
 
And let's be honest here, when some of us started playing years ago the cost of an Anaconda seemed unthinkably huge. I remember thinking I would never be able to afford one and couldn't conceive of me playing the game long enough to earn that much.

Now players can earn enough mining in a single day to afford a Conda so it's about time there was something to aim for for the newer players.

That's what I have hard time grasping here. Since when did updates only include stuff that everybody could buy on day one with pocket change, or since when was that desirable?

I've been playing for over four years and although I have over 6 billion in assets, a lot of that is tied up in ships and I have no intention of selling them. As of today I have about 2.9 billion in cash. Six weeks ago that was 2 billion and I haven't been focused on trying to make money - I've been doing some BGS work since getting back from Beagle and the 900m I made since then is mainly from just running missions. I don't play for 10 hours a day or anything - the absolute earliest I log on during the week is 9pm and I hardly ever do more than a couple of hours. I don't play every day either.

It's almost impossible not to make money at a decent rate these days if you play for more than a couple of hours a week and frankly, why would someone who doesn't play for that amount of time expect to be able to acquire the closest thing the game has to 'end-game content' immediately and for little effort?

'I've waited a long time for the update' isn't that reason because yeah, so have I and so has everybody else. I'm actually looking forward to having something to work towards if I decide it will be beneficial to me to buy a carrier. If people want to obtain one super-quickly they can go balls-deep on grinding credits and they'll be able to do so. Does it mean they'll have to do something other than fart around running 50k credits courier missions? Undoubtedly but that's choices for you.

I've quite fancied some Imperial Hammers since back when they were actually the meta but I still don't have any because I've never got round to signing up for powerplay. I accept that if I want them, that's what I need to do. This is no different - if people want the benefit of a gargantuan ship with a load of landing pads, the ability to transport a fleet anywhere, its own market and potentially shipyard, repair and restock facilities and all the rest of it then yeah, it's going to take some effort and it won't be something that players can do without some commitment to it. If they were a leading feature of the next DLC then yes, there might be a reasonable argument for not gating content that people have just paid for behind an additional set of in-game barriers, but they aren't - they're being delivered in a belated, yet free update.
 
Why create new content that most players will never experience? Sure, there's a dedicated proportion of the playerbase who have 5bn but the vast majority will never, ever see that sort of cash.

With that attitude, that's correct. If you take some time to gather the info needed and then go mining LTD, you'll make good money. I know CMDRs who have been playing for about 6 mos that have enough credits to buy one. Just need to invest the time into it, like anything else.
 
Sorry if already asked, but could you buy multiple carriers? And would it be possible to buy for an organisational account through donations?
 
Mining has been an excessively lucrative outlier which took too long to be corrected.

With what's been announced so far, FC's should only be worth 2b at most. There is nothing it offers (based on announcements of the FC) to justify the 5b pricetag so far.

Who said it's not still lucrative? It's just not Void Opals currently but Low Temp Diamonds instead. A couple of days ago I unloaded my Cutter with 522 LTDs at $1.6M each. Do that 6 times and you've got a FC. You can still get over $1M per LTD these days and it's not that difficult to mine. I took a break for a few years, just logging in to see new content. Started playing regularly again last June. I had about $2B back then and now it's at $15B. It's just a matter of putting in the time needed.
 
Who said it's not still lucrative? It's just not Void Opals currently but Low Temp Diamonds instead. A couple of days ago I unloaded my Cutter with 522 LTDs at $1.6M each. Do that 6 times and you've got a FC. You can still get over $1M per LTD these days and it's not that difficult to mine. I took a break for a few years, just logging in to see new content. Started playing regularly again last June. I had about $2B back then and now it's at $15B. It's just a matter of putting in the time needed.
Yawn... that's really all I have to add sorry, because that particular topic has been beaten to death.

Mining should never have been used as a baseline income source for setting a "reasonable" price for FCs. It should have been baselined against all activities in the game.

Additionally, the key point here is that there's not 5b value in the announcables right now.
 
i dont get the argument some people seem to be insistent on making ... it's like "Fast food workers should be able to own ferrari's on their salary!" type nonsense. If your trail that you're blazing is one that results in a low income then you can't buy expensive things. If it's so soul crushing and lacking all of the fun that you're having to grind billions of credits, then it's a fair tradeoff right? you get to have fun but be poor and they get to have no fun but own a fleet carrier. Or are these people just lying and exaggerating how hard it is to make credits and just want everything for no effort? It can't be both.

The important game design decision is to make sure those things that are expensive aren't required to do the basic activities of the game. . Which they are not. So no problem.
 
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