I see your point, but if they really think so they are silly. If they want me to spend hours in their game, they need to offer me fun and new stuff to do. If these two are mutually exclusive I'll do other things with my time.
ANNOUNCEMENT Fleet Carriers - Content Reveal Announcement
- Thread starter Stephen Benedetti
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I see your point, but if they really think so they are silly. If they want me to spend hours in their game, they need to offer me fun and new stuff to do. If these two are mutually exclusive I'll do other things with my time.
I wonder what the persistent cost will be for upkeep, maintenance, etc? Will it be a percentage to the value of the ship or a flat rate? If it is a percentage of the value of a ship, once a commander starts to "A" rate it and engineer the modules (if that will be possible), the price can go up REALLY fast.
Awesome - I have some questions @Stephen Benedetti
Here are a few
1. How many jumps can a carrier do on a full tank and can this be enhanced with engineering?
2. How long does it take to cool down and jump again? Minutes, Hours, Days?
3. If I don't pay the 'rent' what happens to my fleet and Modules when the carrier goes 'POP' ?
4. Can I park my carrier at a body of my choice and can I move it within system to another body?
5. We know how many pads, but how many ships can a carrier hold?
6. Can we increase jump range for an exploration ship? (Remove Market for increased range maybe?)
7. Will we see the carrier jump / arrive and if so, be able to use the camera tools?
8. How much will be the rebuy be on a basic carrier?
9. 5 Billion for a carrier.. how much for the add-ons?
10. Do I have to buy a whole new carrier to change role?
Many thanks in advance, really looking forward to the stream o7
Nutter o7
For a Nimitz size price tag I'd expect Nimitz style capability, FCs seem closer to LHD style capability so something like the USS Wasp at around $1.4 billion.
isnt that answered in the opening post already? they will be present in the chat
Reread the OP: they'll be on the chat answering questions live. They also said they're watching this thread and record questions asked so they can answer them during the stream.
The stream is pre-recorded (presumably to ensure a smooth experience and minimise technical issues with different contributors streaming from home, rather than from a studio), but the devs and community team will be answering questions in the chat, apparently.
5 Billion for a Fleet Carrier will only work if the "New Era" of Elite Dangerous gives players who purchase it an additional 5 billion credit token so they can fully play and experience the game.
Fleet Carriers are sounding more and more like they are absurdly locked behind a wall of grind. Playing ED shouldn't be about the grind (to grind the 5 billion to purchase a FC in the first instance, to grind the fuel commodity to move it, or the credit sink to "rent" it before it gets decommissioned).
I know FDEV will probably try to inject some logic / theory behind the cost of such a huge vessel by justifying a Cutter costs X amount and so therefore a HUGE vessel must cost XXX amount, and the need for some "end goal" for super hardcore players. But I don't think Fleet Carriers should be it. It's the casual player who misses out.
The "end goal" for super hardcore players could be a 5 billion credit regular ship - but fancier than the Cutter. That would be a new end goal / status thing for the hardcore players. but it wouldn't lock anybody out of anything.
... We have a full scale galaxy for crying out load. There is enough room for everyone.
Fleet Carriers are sounding more and more like they are absurdly locked behind a wall of grind. Playing ED shouldn't be about the grind (to grind the 5 billion to purchase a FC in the first instance, to grind the fuel commodity to move it, or the credit sink to "rent" it before it gets decommissioned).
I know FDEV will probably try to inject some logic / theory behind the cost of such a huge vessel by justifying a Cutter costs X amount and so therefore a HUGE vessel must cost XXX amount, and the need for some "end goal" for super hardcore players. But I don't think Fleet Carriers should be it. It's the casual player who misses out.
The "end goal" for super hardcore players could be a 5 billion credit regular ship - but fancier than the Cutter. That would be a new end goal / status thing for the hardcore players. but it wouldn't lock anybody out of anything.
... We have a full scale galaxy for crying out load. There is enough room for everyone.
why can't they publish the source code, no questions left after that
"Why does this code have to use so many parentheses when it's already using brackets? We should just have all parentheses, or all brackets. Why can't you make up your minds?
"Also, I don't like reading all these mathematical symbols. Can we just get rid of them and use plain English?"
my bad.. did not pay attention, still I'd rather have somebody responding "on camera" to see the body language
Cr5bn a pop, hmm time to hit the Void Opal mining again...oh, wait....
But it does look like it's gonna be fun. At first, I thought well there's gonna be some autocratic prat in charge of a carrier who just annoys his clients...but then I realised that if he does that, then no-one will want to work with him any more. So, it looks like this is a whole new level of player interaction - in a good way
Looking forward to this!
But it does look like it's gonna be fun. At first, I thought well there's gonna be some autocratic prat in charge of a carrier who just annoys his clients...but then I realised that if he does that, then no-one will want to work with him any more. So, it looks like this is a whole new level of player interaction - in a good way
Looking forward to this!
I second that, though given the worldwide situation it's understandable them came up with this solution.my bad.. did not pay attention, still I'd rather have somebody responding "on camera" to see the body language
This. I actually don't mind if there are things that cost 100 billion, but:
-There has to be a cheaper alternative (I started exploring in an Adder because I could afford no more in spring 2015, would have been upset if you had to have a conda).
-There are intermediate steps from where you are to the end target.
There is no issue with an FDL being 60 million, because a starting player has a whole bunch of intermediate combat ships to progress through. I am triple elite and have (apart from the Cutter, got no imp rank) all ships in the game. I have nothing to spend my money on. Yet I am nowhere near to what I need to buy a carrier. There is a 'spending void' of many, many billions. So while I plough through this void towards a carrier there is nothing else to look foward to. This is just really poor design, not sure how else I could call it.
see... I am so excited about FC that I forgot about this factor...
I still say though, I am concern about "decommissioning" without knowing what's behind it, but I want them to present first before I make up my mind (already a huge blocker on my calendar)And more than this, I haven't yet seen anyone mention what size landing pad it will need. I mean you can't engineer the modules if no engineer has a 'Ginormous'-class landing pad.
Maybe you just land on the planet surface and they send out cranes, droids and tractors to do the work; I dunno
Pretty sure the 5 billion cost was what I predicted in DW2 EDSM chat late last year. Wonder what outfitting there will be as FD clearly indicate there will be different types of FC with different loadout options? Or did I read that wrong, and there are options of prefitted FCs?
Will only leave me with a paltry 1.6 billion credits after... :S
FD havent indicated we can actually fly these things? And I very much doubt even if we can that we would be able to dock them?
Will only leave me with a paltry 1.6 billion credits after... :S
And more than this, I haven't yet seen anyone mention what size landing pad it will need. I mean you can't engineer the modules if no engineer has a 'Ginormous'-class landing pad.
Maybe you just land on the planet surface and they send out cranes, droids and tractors to do the work; I dunno
FD havent indicated we can actually fly these things? And I very much doubt even if we can that we would be able to dock them?
I hear what you are saying, but don't you feel like there is already a "road to Fleet Carriers"