ANNOUNCEMENT Fleet Carriers - Content Reveal Announcement

[Nadreck]

Well, I've made it to 5bn. Granted, I was already at 4bn on Saturday, I appreciate that it would be a more daunting prospect if I was starting from scratch.

My advice to those who can't face doing that, would be to do something else for awhile that happens to pay reasonably well (even if it isn't in the same league as mining for credits/hour). Exploration, for instance: just make sure you can get to Powerplay rank 5 with LYR before you set out (if you do it by haulage, be prepared to pay 100m to fast-track 10,000t of PP cargo). That will triple your payout, my 2.3 billion from DW2 was a big help. Robigo passenger runs to Sothis are still worth around 80m/hr when allied, and you might like to check out stacking cargo/data missions between Ceos and Sothis: I was going for Fed rank, so only taking missions from the Fed faction and going for Rep rewards, but I still manages to accidentally earn about a billion doing that, so probably several billion if I'd taken the most lucrative payouts from all factions.

 

[Deluvian]

Question for fdev:

With the introduction of the Fleet Carriers, in the future there will be new ships between the size of the beluga and the Fleet Carrier?

Like Panther Clipper for example.........

 

[Mengy]

Guys the fleet carrier is not realy expensive.

No it's not. I mean only like 4-5% of the entire playerbase can afford one, that's practically everyone! Only 95% of all Elite players can't afford a fleet carrier, so nah they aren't really expensive.

 

[alexzk]

No it's not. I mean only like 4-5% of the entire playerbase can afford one, that's practically everyone! Only 95% of all Elite players can't afford a fleet carrier, so nah they aren't really expensive.

Inara shows other numbers ...like top 20% can buy right away, other 20% have 3/5 of sum needed and can buy in couple days later.

 

[Hellrider]

Still.
This isn't expensive, if you can earn money in few runs with diamonds (i don't care lower income from other activities, i haven't 5 bil too, and? Still, I will play, maybe i buy carrier, maybe no).
95% of players havent this amount of money, because...they doesn't need it.
Upkeep can be a problem, but now we don't know nothing about it excluded fact, that it will exist.

 

[CMDR_Slykiller9136]

I particularly like that you're using an isotope of hydrogen for this, and not some unobtanium - essentially the same fuel for ships! Very cool, looking forward to the Beta!

I wonder how many fuel rats are going to use theirs as bases out in the black?

Takes notes and passes information along

 

[Robert Maynard]

Inara shows other numbers ...like top 20% can buy right away, other 20% have 3/5 of sum needed and can buy in couple days later.

That's odd. Artie did a summary of Inara users in late February and only about 3% had 5B Cr. or more.

Not seeing how CMDR statistics be displayed on Inara sorted by total asset value either. Plus not all Inara users show their credit balance.

 

[alexzk]

That's odd. Artie did a summary of Inara users in late February and only about 3% had 5B Cr. or more.

Well, it does not have a way to order by credits, true. But... it has top on many parameters. Since page 200 out of 800 (going back to 1) you start to see peoples over 5 bil regularly. I think this corresponds to trend, i.e. 200/800 of pple has over 5 bil.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Well, it does not have a way to order by credits, true. But... it has top on many parameters. Since page 200 out of 800 (going back to 1) you start to see peoples over 5 bil regularly. I think this corresponds to trend, i.e. 200/800 of pple has over 5 bil.

There's a player on the first page with just over 5B Cr. To assume that 25% have over 5B is quite the assumption, in my opinion - especially given the difference between that and Artie's previous summary.

 

[zimms]

Well, it does not have a way to order by credits, true. But... it has top on many parameters. Since page 200 out of 800 (going back to 1) you start to see peoples over 5 bil regularly. I think this corresponds to trend, i.e. 200/800 of pple has over 5 bil.

That's not representative at all, it's silly really.

But let me try as well. There are only ~60k registered CMDRs on Inara. Your arbitrary selection of 200/800 pages would be 15k CMDRs who have enough credits to buy a FC at release. The first Google hit tells me ED has sold 2.75 million copies - oh boy. Only 15k of them have the necessary credits.

Only 0.5% of all players will be able to afford a FC!!!

edit: The number of copies sold is from August 2017 so the real number is even more scary!

 

[Riverside]

In ED every activity is a niche activity performed by a minority.

The majority do not explore.
The majority do not PvP
The majority did not make hay while the sun shone.

I wouldn't be surprised if the majority don't have an Inara account.

I don't mine, I just carried on playing regularly between game updates & I have 7bCr in my pocket & a bunch of ships I could sell to free up a couple more if I felt I needed the cash. Because I play regularly I'm also not overly concerned about maintenance. otoh I'm 'only' in a small squadron, not even big enough to qualify for a PMF.

 

[Kekkonshiki]

That is something different and yes I don’t take missions when I am not certain I can complete it within my session. So to stay with your analogy a FC is a weekly time limited reoccurring mission and thats what I am not willing to do

You're making assumptions without the facts. The only thing we know about upkeep is that we're allowed to fall behind in the payments and the amount we're allowed to go behind is 'HUGE' - from FDev themselves.

So it's not time limited - it's debt limited. You can take a month off then pay your bill when next you decide to play.

Wait until the recorded stream for actual facts and details before going off on a strop.

 

[Krash]

You're making assumptions without the facts. The only thing we know about upkeep is that we're allowed to fall behind in the payments and the amount we're allowed to go behind is 'HUGE' - from FDev themselves.

So it's not time limited - it's debt limited. You can take a month off then pay your bill when next you decide to play.

Wait until the recorded stream for actual facts and details before going off on a strop.

Will the FC services be open to NPCs?

 

[Artie]

Inara shows other numbers ...like top 20% can buy right away, other 20% have 3/5 of sum needed and can buy in couple days later.

That's not representative at all, it's silly really.

But let me try as well. There are only ~60k registered CMDRs on Inara. Your arbitrary selection of 200/800 pages would be 15k CMDRs who have enough credits to buy a FC at release. The first Google hit tells me ED has sold 2.75 million copies - oh boy. Only 15k of them have the necessary credits.

Only 0.5% of all players will be able to afford a FC!!!

edit: The number of copies sold is from August 2017 so the real number is even more scary!

That's very false assumption based on a very incomplete data set. That 60k commanders are just those that decided to be listed in the rankings (there is around a quarter of million of users on Inara otherwise). Also, that rankings listing is not based on credits/assets at all, so although there is expected that higher ranked commanders are more rich, it may not be always true. In short, any conclusions based on this listing are very misleading and almost certainly wrong.

My personal subjective estimate based on the data is that in reality 0-10% of commanders will be able to buy the fleet carrier on release. But what exact number it is, only FDev knows.

 

[AveCandido]

That's odd. Artie did a summary of Inara users in late February and only about 3% had 5B Cr. or more.

Not seeing how CMDR statistics be displayed on Inara sorted by total asset value either. Plus not all Inara users show their credit balance.

Beware Inara I do not think I have the data of all the CMDR, since it needs that you give them permission from your account, to know data in the game of a player. It is only representative, but I for example years ago did not give data to any page that is not Frontier

 

[AveCandido]

INARA only represents its logueados I create no more than 1% or 2% of the real Cmrd. But it serves for an extrapolation statistic.
Always to personal opinion

 

[AveCandido]

That's very false assumption based on a very incomplete data set. That 60k commanders are just those that decided to be listed in the rankings (there is around a quarter of million of users on Inara otherwise). Also, that rankings listing is not based on credits/assets at all, so although there is expected that higher ranked commanders are more rich, it may not be always true. In short, any conclusions based on this listing are very misleading and almost certainly wrong.

My personal subjective estimate based on the data is that in reality 0-10% of commanders will be able to buy the fleet carrier on release. But what exact number it is, only FDev knows.

This number is not entirely valid, since it counts those that were registered but are not coordinating. Example to me counts as cmdr, because at the time I was logged in but I have not been active in INARA for more than 4 years, so you have to be careful.

 

[Lightspeed]

That's odd. Artie did a summary of Inara users in late February and only about 3% had 5B Cr. or more.

Not seeing how CMDR statistics be displayed on Inara sorted by total asset value either. Plus not all Inara users show their credit balance.

An Obsidian Ant Poll gives 4% [Edit plus another 4% = 8%]

Edit - source:

 

[Shadow Quest]

That's not representative at all, it's silly really.

But let me try as well. There are only ~60k registered CMDRs on Inara. Your arbitrary selection of 200/800 pages would be 15k CMDRs who have enough credits to buy a FC at release. The first Google hit tells me ED has sold 2.75 million copies - oh boy. Only 15k of them have the necessary credits.

Only 0.5% of all players will be able to afford a FC!!!

edit: The number of copies sold is from August 2017 so the real number is even more scary!

If Innara is representative of the 2.7 m total what ive noticed is that when I look up folk 10 above and 10 below me (Im in the 30,000 range from 45,000 3 weeks ago ) 18 out of the 20 havnt played from 6months-2 years ago so its only active players that are even in this possabilty sure some may return but many seem to have moved on

I have only been mining once and it cost me more for the modules than I made lol but Im still on 1.197b in two months and on current earnings from missions predicted to hit 2B in 11 days if I wish it I reckon if I just carry on I will hit 5B in a couple of months not that ive any idea if I will want one will wait to see how this all pans out whilst having fun with my Krait

 

[Zieman]

An Obsidian Ant Poll gives 4%
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That is 8% actually...