ANNOUNCEMENT Fleet Carriers - Content Reveal Recap
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Possible use could be craft - buy ore from commanders and craft some rare ships/modules using it. Which cheaper then NPC or absent at NPC.
Current one ....dumb ... buy 20000 of LTD 100k less price then top, then go to NPC to sell just to see another commander sold 20000 and NPC does not buy any more
Current one ....dumb ... buy 20000 of LTD 100k less price then top, then go to NPC to sell just to see another commander sold 20000 and NPC does not buy any more
I am cautiously optimistic about Fleet Carriers. I am concerned about:
And for my last thoughts: the first reveal of Fleet Carriers was exciting to be sure, particularity the defined load-outs and a Fleet Carrier design for each "Career" (Exploration, mining etc). As stated above, we only got to see one design, so i hope for different designs. If not, it would seem that FDev took an easier route to give us Fleet Carriers, from a design point of view. Maybe, having different visual Fleet Carrier designs would place too much burden on servers, so they went for UI designs withFleet Carrier services with one type of Fleet Carrier instead. This would be very disappointing to be sure if this is the case!!
- 2 hours wait between jumps (1 hour build up and 1 hour cool down). That would mean traveling to Colonia would take 80 HOURS!!! This is a huge disappointment, particularly for expansive exploration. It's quicker to use an Engineered Anaconda to explore than it would be to use a Fleet Carrier - in fact, with an engineered Anaconda it takes 20-30 mins to travel 500LY... Using a Fleet Carrier for exploration would be useless.
- We only saw one Fleet Carrier design. I really hope there are more Fleet Carrier designs, like we saw when they were first shown.
- Upkeep costs. This does make sense but it feels like I'm being forced to keep playing the game. Without actual game play experience, however, I'm keeping an open mind.
- Grinding for Tritium. I hope this isn't as bad as it sounds. I hope that mining for this is made more exciting than how mining is currently. Make deep core mining exciting again.
And for my last thoughts: the first reveal of Fleet Carriers was exciting to be sure, particularity the defined load-outs and a Fleet Carrier design for each "Career" (Exploration, mining etc). As stated above, we only got to see one design, so i hope for different designs. If not, it would seem that FDev took an easier route to give us Fleet Carriers, from a design point of view. Maybe, having different visual Fleet Carrier designs would place too much burden on servers, so they went for UI designs withFleet Carrier services with one type of Fleet Carrier instead. This would be very disappointing to be sure if this is the case!!
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Since you seem to not care for things that could be seen as money pits or massive ship sims, I'm not entirely certain you'd like EvE Online much better (if at all).
I totally agree These carriers need to be able to interact with NPC pilots.
It looks like you're looking at 1t of Tritium = 1 ly of jump range from what I can see. Main tank has room for 1000T, carrier has storage for up to 25,000T.
In theory, you can get to Colonia, but will have to mine/buy from stations to get back.
Without NPC interaction, there's no way there's enough players in the game who will take the time to utilize people's carriers. For sure.
Also, no thargoid attacks? I guess that whole war with the thargoids thing died along with all the narrative content.
Also, no thargoid attacks? I guess that whole war with the thargoids thing died along with all the narrative content.
As a solo explorer, I am actually kinda pumped about these carriers.
Sure, they cost a lot to sustain and don't seem to make money for explorers but they enable us to reach real deep into the black. Think about it! Places like Elysium's Rest will now be reachable with a return ticket... if your carrier has the fuel reserve.
Some CMDR might soon have her name immortalized on the legendary Anaconda Graveyard system... unless that already happened. Egg on my face in that case, I guess.
There are a lot of star systems at the very edge of the galaxy that cannot be reached without a carrier. So... even if it costs arms and legs, getting out there AND BACK sounds really cool.
Yeah, its expensive but it gives a completely new meaning to “deep space” exploration.
Thumbs up!
Sure, they cost a lot to sustain and don't seem to make money for explorers but they enable us to reach real deep into the black. Think about it! Places like Elysium's Rest will now be reachable with a return ticket... if your carrier has the fuel reserve.
Some CMDR might soon have her name immortalized on the legendary Anaconda Graveyard system... unless that already happened. Egg on my face in that case, I guess.
There are a lot of star systems at the very edge of the galaxy that cannot be reached without a carrier. So... even if it costs arms and legs, getting out there AND BACK sounds really cool.
Yeah, its expensive but it gives a completely new meaning to “deep space” exploration.
Thumbs up!
Can carry all my ships around, check
Has interstellar factors! CHECK!
this is dope!
Has interstellar factors! CHECK!
this is dope!
Brilliant. Seriously brilliant.
2 and a half years... and all you made was a UI menu..., and a jump animation with sounds that were already in the game 3+ years ago.
Honestly, i'm not that impressed.
We had to wait 2 and a half years for this? Really?
Oh, and you can't even sell exploration data on a carrier? Who made the call on that one?
You know what? Nevermind. I give up.. I literally give up on trying to get through to you designers. You're on your own now.
Honestly, i'm not that impressed.
We had to wait 2 and a half years for this? Really?
Oh, and you can't even sell exploration data on a carrier? Who made the call on that one?
You know what? Nevermind. I give up.. I literally give up on trying to get through to you designers. You're on your own now.
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Hmm. Better than I expected in some areas, worse in others, and... a bit weird... in others.
If I'm interpreting this right, these have station-equivalent ship and module storage. No 16-ship limit, but it's a bit hazy if the stored ships count towards the 25,000 limit: apparently the stock of ships for sale does impact this somewhat.
Ship transfer is on the "Shipyard" tab. Does this mean that the owner cannot store more than one ship on the Carrier unless a shipyard is added? If so, will there be a cheap and lightweight no-stock (or minimal-stock) shipyard option? I'm not interested in buying/selling stock ships, I just want ship storage and transfer.
Apparently a default 1,000t fuel tank and 500t used per jump: but up to 25,000t cargo storage (minus the space used up by whatever upgrades you've added). That's up to 26,000ly without needing to refuel, which is just as well, because I expect refuelling this thing by mining will be a herculean task.
Only the owner can access the cargo storage. So stuff sold on the market just vanishes, as with a station market? This would be handy for explorers out in the black, they can pay the maintenance by doing some mining and selling stuff to the Carrier. However... no cartographics??? Add my vote to those who think this is a significant oversight. And to those who say "getting the data home is part of the process"... the Carrier IS home (or should be). Afer paying billions for one and putting in the effort to get it out to where it's wanted, anyone should have the option of just staying out there, with the Carrier as a base station. Please add UC.
1 hour spinup/cooldown... um. Realistically, for those of us with lives, that's 3 or 4 jumps per day. One in the morning before we go to work, one when we get home, one mid-evening, maybe one before bed. Fine for use in the Bubble, as you probably only need to jump once anyhow, but you won't be going anywhere else very quickly. Maybe a fortnight to get to Colonia. Maybe give us a phone app to jump the Carrier while at work or whatever!
Marketplace tariffs etc: could be useful for squadrons. Carrier buys something common with maximum markup, that's a way for squadrons to contribute to the upkeep of the Carrier.
Upkeep: probably OK for someone who can afford to buy one in the first place, especially as there doesn't seem to be an upper limit to how much you can stack, so just dump cash into the bank once per year or whatever.
If I'm interpreting this right, these have station-equivalent ship and module storage. No 16-ship limit, but it's a bit hazy if the stored ships count towards the 25,000 limit: apparently the stock of ships for sale does impact this somewhat.
Ship transfer is on the "Shipyard" tab. Does this mean that the owner cannot store more than one ship on the Carrier unless a shipyard is added? If so, will there be a cheap and lightweight no-stock (or minimal-stock) shipyard option? I'm not interested in buying/selling stock ships, I just want ship storage and transfer.
Apparently a default 1,000t fuel tank and 500t used per jump: but up to 25,000t cargo storage (minus the space used up by whatever upgrades you've added). That's up to 26,000ly without needing to refuel, which is just as well, because I expect refuelling this thing by mining will be a herculean task.
Only the owner can access the cargo storage. So stuff sold on the market just vanishes, as with a station market? This would be handy for explorers out in the black, they can pay the maintenance by doing some mining and selling stuff to the Carrier. However... no cartographics??? Add my vote to those who think this is a significant oversight. And to those who say "getting the data home is part of the process"... the Carrier IS home (or should be). Afer paying billions for one and putting in the effort to get it out to where it's wanted, anyone should have the option of just staying out there, with the Carrier as a base station. Please add UC.
1 hour spinup/cooldown... um. Realistically, for those of us with lives, that's 3 or 4 jumps per day. One in the morning before we go to work, one when we get home, one mid-evening, maybe one before bed. Fine for use in the Bubble, as you probably only need to jump once anyhow, but you won't be going anywhere else very quickly. Maybe a fortnight to get to Colonia. Maybe give us a phone app to jump the Carrier while at work or whatever!
Marketplace tariffs etc: could be useful for squadrons. Carrier buys something common with maximum markup, that's a way for squadrons to contribute to the upkeep of the Carrier.
Upkeep: probably OK for someone who can afford to buy one in the first place, especially as there doesn't seem to be an upper limit to how much you can stack, so just dump cash into the bank once per year or whatever.
And that's you playing the game every 2 hours and you can always jump the maximum range every time.
Sounds good. Carriers were never going to be for everyone, that would be a ridiculous mechanic. I wont be able to afford one for a while with my playstyle, and may never get one when I can - they are definitely for a certain type of Cmdr only - but I'm sure to hop aboard one that a squadmate operates
I rewatched the fleet carrier reveal trailer just for this, but they actually never showed a different carrier before, just the different designs for support vessels (that were scrapped now). Now I fear that all the extra dev time didn't go to a second or more different carrier types. And I further fear that like the SRV, it will remain at one design indefinitely...
Thank you for the summary.
Sure, until it bleeds your account dry and it gets decommissioned in the middle of nowhere. Then you get nothing back because your so far from a FC dock.
Such a waste.
And you know what's really bad, That FDev just IGNORED the issue altogether. They didn't even have the balls to say WHY they did this. I find that interesting.
They ignored it on the "Live" steam, they ignored it in this post. Why is that by chance? I don't even care any more that they did it, I want an ACTUAL answer as to WHY. no Bullcrap answers like they gave OA either, a REAL answer.
I think the community at least deserves that answer, at least to put it on record, even if they don't care and are not doing it no matter how many people yell, they still deserve an Honest answer.
On the upkeep: 10m doesn't seem much for those who can afford it, for those who don't mine their heart out, it's too much.
10m is a well paying passenger trip. VIP class!
Assassination missions don't pay more than 2m a pop.
And how many crew member am I exactly paying here? even at 10'000 CR/week, I'm pretty much hiring 100 CEOs and managing directors to do grunt work and refill gas tanks.
10m is a well paying passenger trip. VIP class!
Assassination missions don't pay more than 2m a pop.
And how many crew member am I exactly paying here? even at 10'000 CR/week, I'm pretty much hiring 100 CEOs and managing directors to do grunt work and refill gas tanks.