ANNOUNCEMENT Fleet Carriers - Content Reveal Recap
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-Player trading market could lead to much more dynamic wealth and power across the game if there were a reason to use it.
-Ability to buy stolen goods is probably the most interesting thing in this update, but the inability to clean the stolen goods means it's kinda useless.
-A mobile interstellar factors is a cool idea, but 10,000,000 per week minimum plus service costs plus initial investment is an extremely high price to pay for this minor convenience.
-An hour spin-up period makes the mobility of the carriers practically useless for short-term gameplay loops like moving to a system for a few hours of gameplay and then going somewhere else for other gameplay. Hope they kill this in beta.
-Tariffs should be per class of service, not universal. Fuel, commodities, shipyard, etc. shouldn't share the same tariff.
-Shipyard is another potentially super interesting feature that is being squandered. Let players sell built ships. I'd pay a billion for a fully engineered META combat medium ship and I'm sure others would, too.
-Give players a reason to actually purchase goods or services at a carrier... allow carrier owners to buy in bulk and sell at standard prices for a profit. Otherwise, the only goods traded will be tritium, the modular terminals for Marco Qwent's unlock (rare goods can't be sold), and 1.6M buy offers for LTD so the carrier owners can sell for 1.68M when a system has a public holiday.
-Ability to buy stolen goods is probably the most interesting thing in this update, but the inability to clean the stolen goods means it's kinda useless.
-A mobile interstellar factors is a cool idea, but 10,000,000 per week minimum plus service costs plus initial investment is an extremely high price to pay for this minor convenience.
-An hour spin-up period makes the mobility of the carriers practically useless for short-term gameplay loops like moving to a system for a few hours of gameplay and then going somewhere else for other gameplay. Hope they kill this in beta.
-Tariffs should be per class of service, not universal. Fuel, commodities, shipyard, etc. shouldn't share the same tariff.
-Shipyard is another potentially super interesting feature that is being squandered. Let players sell built ships. I'd pay a billion for a fully engineered META combat medium ship and I'm sure others would, too.
-Give players a reason to actually purchase goods or services at a carrier... allow carrier owners to buy in bulk and sell at standard prices for a profit. Otherwise, the only goods traded will be tritium, the modular terminals for Marco Qwent's unlock (rare goods can't be sold), and 1.6M buy offers for LTD so the carrier owners can sell for 1.68M when a system has a public holiday.
Only correction I might make is the 'Conda can do that 500ly in say about 6 or 7 minutes. Or just 2 jumps with neutron boost. So yeah this thing is an exploration pooch.
Nothing in it for explorers then, not that i'm surprised. These things only seem to be worth anything in and around civilisation and we already have plenty of stations for that. I Was so looking forward to FC's but to quote the Dragons "I'm out", guess i'm waiting for the payed update for worthwhile content for me to enjoy, that or just accept that owning every ship in the game, being triple Elite and having more credits than i can spend is pretty much end game for me.
Yes, that will be nice. However, the make 2 jumps and go mining is just a non-starter together with the 2 hours between jumps. We need to store enough for 50 or 100 jumps, perhaps more. You might be able to arrive with a sidewinder faster than a carrier.
Guess I've beat this horse enough now.
Yea, forgot about Neturon jumps, yea you're right... I just can't see Fleet Carriers being all that useflul for deep space exploration, consdiering how long it would take to reach your destination beyond 1,000LY
I actually just announced earlier an expedition with a leg going to Messier 67 (where Anaconda's Graveyard is) at https://expedition.page.link/Announcement2
If you're interested make sure to sign up!
Also looking into seeing about reaching some other new fringes in certain places as well, like MM Velorum possibly. *(Although we focus specifically on real-life stars, I'd bet there'll be a new ceiling/floor/limit breaking expedition soon too)
My only main question, since it wasn't verified for certain was: Can we jump the Fleet Carrier while we are docked at it. I'm assuming yes most likely, but well, always good to verify stuff right?
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I have the impression that FD has abandoned the idea of specialized FC. They removed the ship specific to each activity (combat, mining, exploration). Only one ship remains without combat, mining or exploration service
A powerful scanner able to scan several systems at the same time for example?
A powerful scanner able to scan several systems at the same time for example?
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It will just take you 100 years to get out there, with a 2 hour wait between jumps
Carriers need production facilities - they need the ability to turn basic mats into ships and modules. Otherwise....its like buying things from the local supermarket and trying to make a profit by charging a higher price.....and hoping nobody else just goes to the supermarket instead, like we did.
I would even put up with no Cartography if there was enough fuel to make 100 or so jumps. Even with the silly 2 hr jump delay. Could set your destination, log back in the next day, or whenever and you're there. Really though, that 2 hr bovine flop needs a real revisit. The fuel supply too.
edit; bovine instead of 2 letter abbreviation.
edit; bovine instead of 2 letter abbreviation.
And how you will use it, say 45000ly away from bubble? It is extra slim chances if any human will fly near by. So only personal repairs. And why do u need it? Anaconda with AMFUs and repair limpets jumps over 70ly. And if, just if u have damaged power plant ...well, reboot & repair, then amfus.
So, I spend a few jumps getting away from competing markets in the bubble - and pull my trouser leg up, stick out my thumb to passing pilots and hope to sell them 10 million credits worth a week to keep afloat?
Why drop the link to squadrons? A small group of players who like to explore together, get a carrier - are able to use it as a base for multiple types of missions, mining ops, local exploration etc. (perhaps with new things to do in the next season). They can refit, repair, and then jump together to the next place. But we are denied our choice of game play.
In the 23rd century, and another galaxy (Mr Roddenberry's), people do do things for no financial reward - but to be part of the bigger adventure - not so in this galaxy in 3306. My crew would work for nothing, only demanding good food, rip-roaring times in the depths of space, and of course - the weekly round of Pirate Bingo TM
Please rethink this Frontier - a simple (?) system where squadron members can transfer money to the Squadron Leader who can make a Fleet Carrier purchase on their behalf - if they leave the squadron, the FC stays in the squadron. Decisions about decommissioning can come down to a vote. FC Crew members who don't demand payment, but only perhaps a share of rewards gained from selling exploration data (surely Cartographic has to be included in the facilities available aboard a FC).
Such potential - so far seemingly wasted - perhaps the Beta will prove me wrong in all these points. Oh, unless I have 5 billion already I wont even be able to get my head around it from the inside - oh well.
Had just returned to ED following a long break - eager to increase my funds. Guess I'll wait to see what comes in the next big (paid for) update at the end of the year. Been playing since 1984 - would be a shame to have to stop now.
Why drop the link to squadrons? A small group of players who like to explore together, get a carrier - are able to use it as a base for multiple types of missions, mining ops, local exploration etc. (perhaps with new things to do in the next season). They can refit, repair, and then jump together to the next place. But we are denied our choice of game play.
In the 23rd century, and another galaxy (Mr Roddenberry's), people do do things for no financial reward - but to be part of the bigger adventure - not so in this galaxy in 3306. My crew would work for nothing, only demanding good food, rip-roaring times in the depths of space, and of course - the weekly round of Pirate Bingo TM
Please rethink this Frontier - a simple (?) system where squadron members can transfer money to the Squadron Leader who can make a Fleet Carrier purchase on their behalf - if they leave the squadron, the FC stays in the squadron. Decisions about decommissioning can come down to a vote. FC Crew members who don't demand payment, but only perhaps a share of rewards gained from selling exploration data (surely Cartographic has to be included in the facilities available aboard a FC).
Such potential - so far seemingly wasted - perhaps the Beta will prove me wrong in all these points. Oh, unless I have 5 billion already I wont even be able to get my head around it from the inside - oh well.
Had just returned to ED following a long break - eager to increase my funds. Guess I'll wait to see what comes in the next big (paid for) update at the end of the year. Been playing since 1984 - would be a shame to have to stop now.
The entry point to Messier 67 is 2647 Ly from Sol, so 5 maybe 6 jumps depending where you purchased it from. Not really some 100 years thing.
Need is up to me. However, my happy hunting grounds (exploration) is about 38kly out. I would offer services there, but that is not the point. I would like to have several ships available, not the least of which might be an inexpensive ship for high-g landings, or a mining dedicated ship or ??? Matters only to me.
Yeh ...mining would be cool, but what to do with ore? Dump in space to free place ?
...and services ... well, as I said Anaconda has all on board. I can fix you in deep space if ever meet you, however, that will never happen - space is too big.
..are you ready to pay 10mil/week to fix that 1 commander which will find you 2 years later?
Yeh ...mining would be cool, but what to do with ore? Dump in space to free place ?
...and services ... well, as I said Anaconda has all on board. I can fix you in deep space if ever meet you, however, that will never happen - space is too big.
..are you ready to pay 10mil/week to fix that 1 commander which will find you 2 years later?
Well that part is potentially cool, either sell it at your FC or store it for later sale elsewhere. I kinda like that.