Nope, you're trying to dumb down content that for once - just once - has the potential to have some challenge and depth to it in order to get the best out of it. Making it a shallow easy-to-go-anywhere gimmick isn't the answer. Give Frontier a chance to find the balance.
Fleet Carriers Update - Beta 2 has now ended!
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Nope, you're trying to dumb down content that for once - just once - has the potential to have some challenge and depth to it in order to get the best out of it. Making it a shallow easy-to-go-anywhere gimmick isn't the answer. Give Frontier a chance to find the balance.
Great work! I'm sure the relatively small target market for carriers will enjoy and benefit from this content.
The majority rest of us will just keep waiting for the next highly anticipated feature (whatever that is). I hope it's something that provides engaging game play benefits to all players. Fingers crossed!
The majority rest of us will just keep waiting for the next highly anticipated feature (whatever that is). I hope it's something that provides engaging game play benefits to all players. Fingers crossed!
Have you forgotten that you can arrange to travel with a carrier without owning one? There are FC benefits for all if they are willing to seek them out.
I want to go exploring with my PERSONAL FC, not mining - I already did the mining grind to get it. I don't want to mine anymore. On top of that, I never actually own the FC - I'm basically just renting it because I have to pay upkeep. I'm better off going in my own ship instead, since fuel scooping is free and there is no upkeep cost involved. Plus, I can go faster on my own than with something that takes 20 minutes to go 500ly. Mining is a grind, no matter how good you are at it. I mine a full load of LTD's (256) in ~55 mins. It's still a grind.
I'm actually arguing for the case that there's a problem,against strong opposition,and have done throughout the second beta.
Are you saying you believe there's a problem that needs fixing now?
It involves mining doesn't it?
Only in the fantasy game in your head.
Nope. Pay me in exotic liquor, food from strange worlds, unusual alien arifacts, they are many, many commodities suitable for hiring passage. If I have a confirmed passenger-Commander list I'll invest in additional modules if need be to insure a smooth ride. I am a big fan of cooperatives, and FCs can be a solid basis for that if everyone involved respects the fair-play attitude that is necessary.
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One thing I will miss is the sense of solitude and distance when exploring. In the rare occasions that I've traveled to the farthest places of the Galaxy (never been towards beagle point, but I've been up, down, South and West), it felt like an accomplishment.
Using ships not optimized for jump range, many times I was hundreds of jumps away from a station. Literally in the middle of nowhere, landing on high g planets with a lightly shielded Asp, Cobra, or Krait.
That was quite a feeling. In a month from now there will always be a station nearby.. I guess the price of progress.. The Galaxy just got a lot smaller..
Using ships not optimized for jump range, many times I was hundreds of jumps away from a station. Literally in the middle of nowhere, landing on high g planets with a lightly shielded Asp, Cobra, or Krait.
That was quite a feeling. In a month from now there will always be a station nearby.. I guess the price of progress.. The Galaxy just got a lot smaller..
Mining yield is the big issue. Its the one that I've been following (as a miner). Yield is far too low. But some people (not you personally) seem to think the answer is increasing fuel efficiency. That won't fix anything, it'll just delay the need to mine, or eliminate it altogether - pushing miners further out of the loop. Its already happening now, since carriers can go to coloina and back on station bought fuel and don't need to mine a single rock. Mining is an integral part to getting carriers around, if it wasn't, they wouldn't have made carriers require fuel in the first place. I hope frontier fix the major problem - mining yield - not the pseudo problem of fuel efficiency. That's what I'll fight for - miners rights! ⛏
Not according to the Hitchhiker's Guide: "Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space."
Bumping into fleet carriers will be uncommon, I'd say, except perhaps in well-advertised spots that almost every Commander and his/her cousin wants to get to because it's the thing to do. My plans are more along the lines of "First star to the right and straight on 'til morning."
Yeah, 25kT would take a long time to fill, but I plan to be out there a long time, and the stuff's not going to evaporate in my hold
Seriously, don't give them ideas like that.
That's the one thing that I've feared about the FC.
That is also why I think the FC should cost more to make it something to strive for.
But, most people now don't like working for anything, they want it given to them.
I've seen this on the forums for double Painite mining:
If Frontier could do that for Tritium - well, I'd like to see even more , but it would be a good starting point, at any rate.
I'd gladly pay 15+b for a FC if there was no upkeep. And low mining tritium rates don't make sense since you can just buy the tritium from a station for far cheaper by exchanging 1 ltd for 25 fuel. Why would they make it harder to explore than it is in a regular ship? You can even jump farther in a normal ship without using the neutron star highway in the same time it takes to jump in a FC.
Wow what a disappointment.