Someone misread the costdrop half a Billion credits, 500,000,000 on a fleet carrier
Someone misread the costdrop half a Billion credits, 500,000,000 on a fleet carrier
Someone misread the cost
Is the ED Open world awash with thousands of commanders who are credit multi "Billionaires" 10,000,000,000+ who are just bored, and hanging around in droves to drop 5 Billion credits, 5,000,000,000 on a fleet carrier? Plus the stocking and upkeep fees? Surely we are looking at min 7 Billion creds startup cost and ongoing fees?
I have been a Commander since 2014 , and only since the CV19 thing have I had the real life spare time to grind for credits and rank to get Elite in trading, an A rated Federal Corvette (which also cost me 200m credits in donations/costs to speed up), and 1.60B credits in the bank. Not sure when mining became worthwhile again, back in the day 2014 mining for Gold in asteroid belts @ 10k-20k a ton was the best and easiest you could do, and no limpits, all manual scooping. But lets say the current situation , the youtube videos, it takes me 3 hours with 192 limpets in a mining Python to mine low temp diamonds to mine, jump 80-200 LY to sell, Jump back, and begin again. Funny who no Youtuber ever mentions the return trip to Borann A2 in their 200 million credits p/h videos.
So at best we are looking at 80m credits an hour,once to have got to 30m credits for a kitted out mining Python, you will have to work 80-90 hours non stop to afford a fleet carrier.
Actually when I put it that way, its 5 days credit grinds at 18 hrs a day, the Galaxy will be a wash with them offering low temp diamond miners safe passage return trip to selling system and back to Borann A2 for 20% cargo cut + limpet and fuel repurchase. You mine 198 tons of low temp diamonds in Borann A2 , dock on my Fleet carrier, i transport you (in open, untouchable by pirates) to the front door of the selling station of your choice, you leave, drop 38 tons of LTD as my fee which i collect with a tank limpet collector ship, we both sell at the station, both dock back in the fleet carrier, and i return you in full safety to Borann A2, you stock up from me with fuel and limpets, and off you go mining again.
Unless...…………….LTD Borann A2 mining is nerfed in the FC update??
Is the ED Open world awash with thousands of commanders who are credit multi "Billionaires" 10,000,000,000+ who are just bored, and hanging around in droves to drop 5 Billion credits, 5,000,000,000 on a fleet carrier? Plus the stocking and upkeep fees? Surely we are looking at min 7 Billion creds startup cost and ongoing fees?
I have been a Commander since 2014 , and only since the CV19 thing have I had the real life spare time to grind for credits and rank to get Elite in trading, an A rated Federal Corvette (which also cost me 200m credits in donations/costs to speed up), and 1.60B credits in the bank. Not sure when mining became worthwhile again, back in the day 2014 mining for Gold in asteroid belts @ 10k-20k a ton was the best and easiest you could do, and no limpits, all manual scooping. But lets say the current situation , the youtube videos, it takes me 3 hours with 192 limpets in a mining Python to mine low temp diamonds to mine, jump 80-200 LY to sell, Jump back, and begin again. Funny who no Youtuber ever mentions the return trip to Borann A2 in their 200 million credits p/h videos.
So at best we are looking at 80m credits an hour,once to have got to 30m credits for a kitted out mining Python, you will have to work 80-90 hours non stop to afford a fleet carrier.
Actually when I put it that way, its 5 days credit grinds at 18 hrs a day, the Galaxy will be a wash with them offering low temp diamond miners safe passage return trip to selling system and back to Borann A2 for 20% cargo cut + limpet and fuel repurchase. You mine 198 tons of low temp diamonds in Borann A2 , dock on my Fleet carrier, i transport you (in open, untouchable by pirates) to the front door of the selling station of your choice, you leave, drop 38 tons of LTD as my fee which i collect with a tank limpet collector ship, we both sell at the station, both dock back in the fleet carrier, and i return you in full safety to Borann A2, you stock up from me with fuel and limpets, and off you go mining again.
Unless...…………….LTD Borann A2 mining is nerfed in the FC update??
What is the problem? Do not buy FC if it is expensive for you. FC should not be available to any player.
Because of players who believe that everything should be available to them cheap, fast and fun-the galaxy has devalued and become boring...this is the result(
What is the problem? Do not buy FC if it is expensive for you. FC should not be available to any player.
Because of players who believe that everything should be available to them cheap, fast and fun-the galaxy has devalued and become boring...this is the result(
Understand that many players have been waiting years for this content and, rightfully so, are upset at various factors surrounding the implementation of it. The new content should not be gated by a massive grind. That's just lazy design.
In EVE there are Titans, which corporations save for years, in SC there are ships that cost about $ 900, in CS there are skins for weapons, etc.in any game and even beyond it, there are things that "wait for years". Money is devalued when there is a lot of it and it is easy to get it. It will be the same with FC if they can be easily bought and maintained, they will just become boring and everyone will start crying again "boring", "I'm leaving", "the game is dead" and so on.
Understand that many players have been waiting years for this content
It is only a problem because carriers are the ONLY new content. If we had gotten the Panther Clipper or Moray Starboat at the same time...
This response is what is wrong with this community. I've seen it from far too many on the forums. The most significant content added to this game in YEARS and when people complain about not being able to obtain it, the response is "Well, just don't buy it" or "You shouldn't have it right away anyways".
Understand that many players have been waiting years for this content and, rightfully so, are upset at various factors surrounding the implementation of it. The new content should not be gated by a massive grind. That's just lazy design.
Furthermore, the ability to quickly access the shallow content of the game is not what makes it boring. It's the poor game design. All "progression" in ED is based on how long you keep doing something over and over again. If you're going to make a "create your own adventure" sandbox game, you need tools to be able to build your own fun. Sure, you can't give all the tools from the start, but good game design makes unlocking new tools engaging, rewarding, and fun and not just a test of your ability to do the exact same things over and over again for countless hours.
But, it looks like in your opinion, those that can't access the new content should just go back to doing what they have for years.... apparently the opposite of boring.
If none of the tools you have (and there are quite a lot) to earn money are fun to use, you are obviously playing the wrong game.Furthermore, the ability to quickly access the shallow content of the game is not what makes it boring. It's the poor game design. All "progression" in ED is based on how long you keep doing something over and over again. If you're going to make a "create your own adventure" sandbox game, you need tools to be able to build your own fun. Sure, you can't give all the tools from the start, but good game design makes unlocking new tools engaging, rewarding, and fun and not just a test of your ability to do the exact same things over and over again for countless hours.
This cmdr shouldn't have any problem with the FC upkeep costs, no matter what..!BTW, has anyone yet declared themselves a ED Trillionaire? With screenshot? it's only 1000 Billion, or 200 Fleet carriers worth, no more than about 12500hrs @ 80m credits an hour, just over 2 years @ 18hrs a day.
LmaoThis cmdr shouldn't have any problem with the FC upkeep costs, no matter what..!
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It is my understanding that Triple Hotspots will be a thing of the past. Fdev SAYS they are leaving the code in so that theoretically you would find one again. (According to them triple hotspots are in fact a bug.) But come on, who really believes that?Is the ED Open world awash with thousands of commanders who are credit multi "Billionaires" 10,000,000,000+ who are just bored, and hanging around in droves to drop 5 Billion credits, 5,000,000,000 on a fleet carrier? Plus the stocking and upkeep fees? Surely we are looking at min 7 Billion creds startup cost and ongoing fees?
I have been a Commander since 2014 , and only since the CV19 thing have I had the real life spare time to grind for credits and rank to get Elite in trading, an A rated Federal Corvette (which also cost me 200m credits in donations/costs to speed up), and 1.60B credits in the bank. Not sure when mining became worthwhile again, back in the day 2014 mining for Gold in asteroid belts @ 10k-20k a ton was the best and easiest you could do, and no limpits, all manual scooping. But lets say the current situation , the youtube videos, it takes me 3 hours with 192 limpets in a mining Python to mine low temp diamonds to mine, jump 80-200 LY to sell, Jump back, and begin again. Funny who no Youtuber ever mentions the return trip to Borann A2 in their 200 million credits p/h videos.
So at best we are looking at 80m credits an hour,once to have got to 30m credits for a kitted out mining Python, you will have to work 80-90 hours non stop to afford a fleet carrier.
Actually when I put it that way, its 5 days credit grinds at 18 hrs a day, the Galaxy will be a wash with them offering low temp diamond miners safe passage return trip to selling system and back to Borann A2 for 20% cargo cut + limpet and fuel repurchase. You mine 198 tons of low temp diamonds in Borann A2 , dock on my Fleet carrier, i transport you (in open, untouchable by pirates) to the front door of the selling station of your choice, you leave, drop 38 tons of LTD as my fee which i collect with a tank limpet collector ship, we both sell at the station, both dock back in the fleet carrier, and i return you in full safety to Borann A2, you stock up from me with fuel and limpets, and off you go mining again.
Unless...…………….LTD Borann A2 mining is nerfed in the FC update??
Sorry a quick FC question as I didn't do the beta tests, or watch many YT video's on FC. Are they driveable within Systems? Just like ships? Can I jump the FC to a System then i'm just stuck at the nav beacon?, or can I then go into/ stay in supercruise and move it around? And then drop out of Supercruise into anywhere I wanted? Like the edge of Borann A2 rings, or in a Warzone / Conflict zone. I can see the benefit of taking my FC into a conflict zone, knowing its indestructible, and using it as a close in conflict repair base for my Corvette to run to when my shields are down, knowing if an NPC shoots me and misses and hits the FC the FC will nuke them.
I think it's easier for them to lower the LTD payout so mining a triple spot of LTDs would become not so profitable.It is my understanding that Triple Hotspots will be a thing of the past. Fdev SAYS they are leaving the code in so that theoretically you would find one again. (According to them triple hotspots are in fact a bug.) But come on, who really believes that?
Better enjoy your Triple LTDs while you can, because I feel that you're not going to see the likes of them again.