PvP Flight assitst on/off hold mode inversion
Try binding the FAOff to your number two button on the mouse as a "hold" instead of a "toggle", under the Flight Miscellaneous/Toggle Flight Assist/Button Mode in the control options setting.
There are some very useful FAOff tips in the CQC forum. For M/K, what I recommend is under the controls option, under the mouse control tab, set x to roll an y to pitch, set relative mouse mode to on, for yaw use your A & D, thrust fwd/aft = W & S, and thrust left/right = Q & E; set mouse sensitivity control to the left, the least sensitive, put relative mouse rate slider to the center and go to the back of any station and practice going back and forth till it feels natural, then try landing. Adjust the sliders till your movement is smooth and not jittery . Think along the line of steering small. What I am aiming for is something like the driving in these Ken Block videos.
[video=youtube;Hg6L_7qLIEQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg6L_7qLIEQ[/video]
[video=youtube;PrqYohBV58o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrqYohBV58o[/video]
[video=youtube;PrqYohBV58o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrqYohBV58o[/video]
As a KB+M user the relative mouse toggle would be fantastic!Relative mouse is a big PITA in SC.
For general flight though I sometimes toggle FA-on to provide a bit of stability then just toggle it off. I do sometimes forget the toggle in a hectic fight and end up trying to fly FA-on with relative mouse which never ends well for me!
I'd like the option to set a default FA setting. Then have the toggle/hold option for FA.
For general flight though I sometimes toggle FA-on to provide a bit of stability then just toggle it off. I do sometimes forget the toggle in a hectic fight and end up trying to fly FA-on with relative mouse which never ends well for me!
I'd like the option to set a default FA setting. Then have the toggle/hold option for FA.
relative ON for mouse users killed an PvP on hotas.
Aiming from rails on mouse is too easy for now, impossible to do on hotas. Just point and shoot like on FPS.
A main function of FA off was hard aiming for skilled players. Now every noob will be ultra skilled with relative ON option on mouse.
After 10 minutes of playing on mouse i am much more efficient than on hotas since three years.
Playing mouse+kb is totally uncool in space combat game for me.
Mouse+kb with relative on FA off is OP, it should be balanced somehow.
Aiming from rails on mouse is too easy for now, impossible to do on hotas. Just point and shoot like on FPS.
A main function of FA off was hard aiming for skilled players. Now every noob will be ultra skilled with relative ON option on mouse.
After 10 minutes of playing on mouse i am much more efficient than on hotas since three years.
Playing mouse+kb is totally uncool in space combat game for me.
Mouse+kb with relative on FA off is OP, it should be balanced somehow.
Completely 100% agree here.
I am playing with dual stick setup and for me its either FA on or fixed weapons, and I choose the fa off with gimbals approach.
I dont think that a space simulator should be easier to play with m+k but I guess majority of players come to this game from fps games where k+m is the only way to go, so its naturaly will be their default setup.
SRVs have a drive assist default setting (on or off), in addition to a hold/toggle button, and I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to add one for ships and flight assist.
Git gud bro.
Lol gud like you?
https://youtu.be/-lv32_2KduM
https://youtu.be/ZrR4UKADF9M
Stick to killing winders in quince and git gud
It seems PvPers make their own salt wihout the need of the tears of others.
I saw the first vid. The guy was seriously skilled! I would have been crushed just as easy. I have a feeling Algomatic would not have faired much better.
AHK Macro is ready , Since this is a Common wish for people and not really gonna get anyone a better advantage i think this is harmless. BUT if the mods and devs think this harms the game please remove.
AHK code very simple!
Value On RED needs to be your Stick button or keyboard key this is the one that you press.
Value on BLUE is a KEYBOARD key (cant be joy key) that triggers the FAOFF.
Finding your Joy button can be done using :
https://autohotkey.com/docs/scripts/JoystickTest.htm
AHK code very simple!
1joy5 :: ; C button of the X52
SetKeyDelay 30, 30
send z ; MY keyboard key for FAOFF
SetKeyDelay 75, 75
KeyWait 1joy5 ; C button of the X52
send z ; MY keyboard key for FAOFF
return
SetKeyDelay 30, 30
send z ; MY keyboard key for FAOFF
SetKeyDelay 75, 75
KeyWait 1joy5 ; C button of the X52
send z ; MY keyboard key for FAOFF
return
Value On RED needs to be your Stick button or keyboard key this is the one that you press.
Value on BLUE is a KEYBOARD key (cant be joy key) that triggers the FAOFF.
Finding your Joy button can be done using :
https://autohotkey.com/docs/scripts/JoystickTest.htm
I disagree that kb/m with relative on and fa off is op. It takes some seriously steady aim to hit with rails on this type of setup. Maybe the micro-gimballing could be rebalanced... but that would negatively affect everyone. Not just kb/m users. Granted, most of the twitch fps gamers probably find it easier than I do. Still, I don't want to see anything nerfed control-wise. Just a momentary fa-on switch so I don't have to divert any attention from actually flying.
Git gud bro.
A point and click device with an inhered precision due to finger movement is given an auto centering ability in options menu and is not OP don't make me laugh, send us your video duplicating in hotas without third party or a list of utils same faoff k/m precision if you can and post how many hours it took you for comparison
Try next time to compare equal things or know your stuff nobody asked about a nerf just stating the obvious if you don't like it take it with fdev
butt-hurt ??? must be your charming personality expressing
says the master
video ????
need to be showed the way to faoff hotas gid gud from a high skilled like you
At least you are good and tried but looking for pin point accuracy like this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRZl7KxsPOk&feature=youtu.be
and this :
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149104145
also how many hours took you for this lvl and what 3rd party utils you are using outside options menu ?
" Another thing to note is that we are dealing with FDEV here. They are totally block-headed when it comes to things people want for PvP.
It's almost as if they are prejudiced against those of us who play the game exclusively for PvP. We are the second class citizens of ED. "
for that part i totally agree because the mess we are in is because they haven't balance anything from input devices to engineers outcomes thus they cannot make an official competition because if i have to spent 200e to approximate k/m in hotas or use numerous utils then something is wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRZl7KxsPOk&feature=youtu.be
and this :
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149104145
also how many hours took you for this lvl and what 3rd party utils you are using outside options menu ?
" Another thing to note is that we are dealing with FDEV here. They are totally block-headed when it comes to things people want for PvP.
It's almost as if they are prejudiced against those of us who play the game exclusively for PvP. We are the second class citizens of ED. "
for that part i totally agree because the mess we are in is because they haven't balance anything from input devices to engineers outcomes thus they cannot make an official competition because if i have to spent 200e to approximate k/m in hotas or use numerous utils then something is wrong
I don't think we really disagree much here, it's kind of the point of the thread. I just took issue with calling kb/m OP... I don't think it is. That doesn't mean I don't think we need better options for HOTAS users though. I think an FA-ON hold mode would help balance this. But it's mostly the hardware at fault here. Thanks, by the way, for introducing me to the FSSB R3 Lightning. That's another ~ $1k (I don't have a Warthog yet) I'm going to spend on ED, you jerk
EDIT: Or not... I miss-read the description and thought that model introduced a twist function to the warthog. I'm not happy with the T1600... Might try a VKB-Sim Gladiator Mk.II if they had them on Amazon (I hate waiting, dangit).
I don't know for the specific FSSB R3 but force sensitive like x65f had twist on joy although i would go for the rudder pedals solution either way curves programmable buttons and digital to analog interpretations belong to the options menu -not everyone can be a programmer
- that will balance things out without nerfs and a revisit in faon caps will be appropriate... idk if ever a subject is opened about inputs / flight models we will be amazed with the recommendations , FDev do you here ????