Frontier: Can you please define your understanding of "Limited"
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I agree with this as well - having bought a very large amount of skins already to help fund Frontier, however I don't like the fact that they are playing word games with their customers.
No toys out of prams or anything like that, as I will still buy skins that I like - but I'll take anything Frontier say now with a pinch of salt. Remember this is right after offlinegate as well - so customer faith is a little thin right now.
I've already backed the expansions and more,,,, In this case, I was going to buy some extra skins for their hard work, but after see the flags re-released I changed my mind.....
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Javert
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Effect on profitability overall is not clear. If they are putting paint jobs back on sale that they were previously advertising at premium prices as a limited edition, they won't be able to play that trick again because nobody will believe them next time - all paint jobs from now on will have to be at the lowest price.
Ok, serious face on now.
How is the consumer being treated unfairly, in this regard (offline mode is certainly worth the ire)? We are talking about embellishments that provide no financial, tactical or substantive advantage to the purchaser.
Perhaps my knowledge of consumer protection is a bit shoddy...
Also, limited time offer means limited time, not never again time. The McDonald's McRib is limited time offer every time they roll out the rotting pig meat wagon.
Javert
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That can't really be done because if every commander could design their own paint job, it would have to be downloaded when you meet that commander in space, or they would all have to be downloaded to your PC - bandwidth problems.
Of course I do, and I bought the £5 gold skin - as well as buying the £10 chrome and wireframe skins before.
I have no issue with buying skins - I've even come to accept that both the Viper and Hauler packs are half price at 2 and 1 month after they were £10, even if that is also a bit shady (ramp it up 100x, what if a 4K TV you wanted was £1000 when released then 2 months later the shops dropped it to £500 after you bought it)
I want to continue to support Frontier, but if they are going to play fast and loose with the rules then very quickly I'm going to be less inclined to buy any more of those £10 skins.
Why? That is a broad assumption on consumer behavior, no? If people want it they will buy it or they won't. Marketing terms like limited time offer or special offering are just that, marketing...meant to lure you in and get you to pay. Everyone does this.
I don't care about whatever words they attach to it...words from any person or entity are just words and should be taken with a pinch of salt ALWAYS no mater who it is.
I saw the paint jobs, the price was reasonable to me, I bought them. If someone else comes in later and gets a cheaper deal, well then, good for them. I still valued it at the price I bought it at.
No they have not.
Because of the high price on some of the skins it is expected that they should be limited to a one time window. If they were to be sold again they would not be worth the price that FD was asking. The flag skins were no more expensive then any other standard skin, which makes it surprising that they would be listed as limited.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/284446/oft979.pdf
The following practices are banned outright:
6.Limited time only
Falsely stating that a product will only be available for a very
limited time, or that it will only be available on particular
terms for a very limited time, in order to elicit an immediate
decision and deprive consumers of sufficient opportunity
or time to make an informed choice.
Wow, that is some nanny government hand holding if I ever saw it. But, really reading it, what did Frontier do wrong here. It was offered for a limited time. That time ended. It was unavailable, now they are available again. This seems like a new instance to me....hmm
Early adopters always pay a premium? I never complained that my plasma tv cost me $3000 USD...that same TV was sold for $499 Christmas...about 9 months after I purchased it.
I bought the union jack flag skin this time because I missed out the last time. I've had a thought about it though. Although its very nice its not going to be popular with people that don't feel particularly British like those folks up here in Scotland who don't feel all that British especially after the recent vote 
I think it would be nice if the Scottish, Irish and Welsh flags were available separately as well.
I think it would be nice if the Scottish, Irish and Welsh flags were available separately as well.It appears you are saying this currently because it's worked in your favor - you get those skins.
Anyway, the point I was making is Frontier can do what they like - it's their store - but the next time I see something as "LIMITED ONE TIME OFFER ONLY" I'll have second thoughts about buying it if this is their take on the definition.
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A) It wasn't sold as "Limited, only available for X time" or "Only 500 left in the world" etc
B) 2 months vs 9 months is quite a difference in time, especially when the game hasn't even been released yet
C) They have devalued just a little bit more what it meant to be an Alpha and Beta backer of this game
^^Exactly
Also, when that TV dropped price by 1000 dollars on holdiay sale...that would have been a limited time offer. When it goes back down again to an even lower price 6 months later...by the logic seen in this thread...should be illegal.
I mean, continuing this logic, shouldn't backers be peeved that other people are getting the game for cheaper now?
Take the advice given within the pamphlet call the consumer agency responsible and verify that what is implied by this statement is actually true. If something is available for a limited time, and subsequently removed from sale, then this prohibits ever reselling an item like a Christmas tree or holiday merchandise after saying that the sale is for a limited time only...a few weeks prior to the holiday.
What it does prevent is the saying that a given item is for sale for a limited time only and is never removed from sale. Get it clarified THEN call someone out on it. What is read by someone and what the law says is, generally, 2 different things.
Absolutely right!
However, you shouldn't have trusted marketing in the first place. Don't EVER trust marketing. It is specifically designed to game you into buying things. Don't trust any pitch or sales man...trust your own rational consumerism
No, because that was made very clear from the start the game would be sold on release at a normal price - of course backers paid higher to get access, that's what Frontier sold as a package, they also sold the game at around the same price to Kickstarter backers (they also sold many copies at below the release price)