Precisely! That's why FDev will eventually deal with them. Solo/Groups is not the answer, especially when the next breath is Solo is not dangerous, nerf it.
Dictating? I just answered your question and you turn to bullying responses?
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Precisely! That's why FDev will eventually deal with them. Solo/Groups is not the answer, especially when the next breath is Solo is not dangerous, nerf it.
Dictating? I just answered your question and you turn to bullying responses?
I'm glad FD have recognised the issues with rockets vrs shields and the issue of in-station attacks (Why are weapons even allowed to be deployed inside a station?! - Should invoke a warning and countdown-timer). On the point of Player Killing - this has got to stay in the game. It's as fundamental as being able to trade. How it is 'managed' however is up to FD and clearly some changes have to be made.
I like the idea of starting zones being like the Hi-sec on Eve but in the same sense Anarchy means just that. Players should have to think hard about whether to pass through an Anarchy system or not. Also Starter system and 'rare' / high profit systems should be some distance apart. Also a starter system is just that, not a place for ill equipped, Netflix watching players to go hide.
I like the idea of starting zones being like the Hi-sec on Eve but in the same sense Anarchy means just that. Players should have to think hard about whether to pass through an Anarchy system or not. Also Starter system and 'rare' / high profit systems should be some distance apart. Also a starter system is just that, not a place for ill equipped, Netflix watching players to go hide.
This is really all that's needed. I don't think it's realistic to take PvP out of the have without wrecking a whole bunch of valid play styles, but killers should find themselves on the outside of civilization looking in - it's part of the role they choose to play. Raise the bounties, and some stations should simply say "you're not welcome in this system; move along" with a security intercept if they don't take the hint.
+1 Totally agree - laid out my thoughts in this post which got quickly buried
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=105265&page=16&p=1634933&viewfull=1#post1634933
Ugh sorry if this comes over as rude but people like you have to realise that anyone who plays in Open Play actually doesn't care what you have to say on the matter.
We say, good - stick to solo/private - it means you're not stinking up open space. You could also stink up these forums a little less with your comments too (and I mean this to all people like yourself, not you as an individual).
It comes across as trolling and a little desperate, like you want your voices to be heard. Well look at the OP - Frontier have said killing is on the table so get used to it and come join in the game and stop complaining or stay in solo and stop complaining.
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That's fine, I really don't care what you have to say and you're not stinking up my space either and I'll comment where and when I want and you are welcome to try stop me--bring a lunch. Now we can form our own we don't like each other club and go on about our ways.
people are so obsessed with punishment, but isnt the high cost of dying not the biggest problem in regard to griefing (it promotes it)
adding more punishment will only add more ways to grief people
and secondly why can you not REWARD behaviour u want to see
ie: u get nothing for 'invalid' or unwanted kills (inside a station) and give a nice reward for 'valid' kills (big bounty)
on another note just disable firing inside a station i cant see why not
and people claiming that is holding hands should realize that making games always involves holding hands (look at difficulty level of npcs it is laughable)
and this has nothing to do with skill/ fun or whatnot it is just a useless feature that can be exploited just remove it and be done
adding more punishment will only add more ways to grief people
and secondly why can you not REWARD behaviour u want to see
ie: u get nothing for 'invalid' or unwanted kills (inside a station) and give a nice reward for 'valid' kills (big bounty)
on another note just disable firing inside a station i cant see why not
and people claiming that is holding hands should realize that making games always involves holding hands (look at difficulty level of npcs it is laughable)
and this has nothing to do with skill/ fun or whatnot it is just a useless feature that can be exploited just remove it and be done
What you have just described is exactly the solo mode that is in the game. If this is the game you want to play it is there and no one is stopping you from playing it. If you have decided to play in open you accept that you can be killed by other players because YOU have let them into your instance.
P.S. Welcome to my Kill On Sight List Commander
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What you have just described is exactly the solo mode that is in the game. If this is the game you want to play it is there and no one is stopping you from playing it. If you have decided to play in open you accept that you can be killed by other players because YOU have let them into your instance.
P.S. Welcome to my Kill On Sight List Commander
As I said to the last guy, good luck with that, you don't know my commander name.
Let's not tar everyone with the same brush shall we.
The reason some solo players may want their voices heard is because PvP-whiners trying to get the game "balanced" for PvP and, more importantly, FD giving in to their whining.
The game is essentially beta still. When I started playing PB it was pretty much alpha material. FD have a barebones game that some people find boring. PB used to be full of griefing by bored players under the pretense of testing.
It's going to take a few months for the punishment to be balanced out but I have every faith in it working out. The game in it's current state doesn't even let you chat with people in your friends list most of the time, let alone team up properly. That takes away much of the social interaction and for many makes another player simply another kind of NPC without any character but less predictable.
Right now, if you don't like the chaotic evil nature of open then your best bet is probably something like the Mobius PvE group where the only place you can attack other players is in conflict zones, and only players on the opposite side. Neutral is neutral and off limits. Rest of the PvE gameplay outside of conflict zones is solo or Coop against NPC's.
It's going to take a few months for the punishment to be balanced out but I have every faith in it working out. The game in it's current state doesn't even let you chat with people in your friends list most of the time, let alone team up properly. That takes away much of the social interaction and for many makes another player simply another kind of NPC without any character but less predictable.
Right now, if you don't like the chaotic evil nature of open then your best bet is probably something like the Mobius PvE group where the only place you can attack other players is in conflict zones, and only players on the opposite side. Neutral is neutral and off limits. Rest of the PvE gameplay outside of conflict zones is solo or Coop against NPC's.
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I'd elaborate on this, because if you are a repeat offender in Alliance Space, that shouldn't effect your ability to dock in Federal Space, or Empire Space. Unless the Pilots Federation itself black lists you, but that's not their intentions or goal. They could care less what their pilots do. They're a licensing bureau not a government.
Punishing players should have realistic reasoning within the story of the game just as much as the mechanics as the game, and ultimately that is why a "blacklist" will never happen. You don't punish players for playing how they choose to play when it's not against the TOS or EULA. Not when they've paid the price to play the game. Sure, it's annoying to deal with griefers in Open Play, but that is the risk you take when you play in Open. There are several PVE player groups out there that you can get involved in that police their player base. There's also Solo Mode to cut all that out entirely.
Or we can just throw logic out the window and punish players for doing what they want to. Because ultimately that's what you all want. Is to punish griefers, pirates, free booters, and murderers, by stripping their ability to play the game how they want to.
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Fair point, I forgot to add "some" people ...
And again you propagate your agenda, without taking into account this little part here that he also said:
however there should be consequences for such actions which the game needs some tightening on.
Which there are not really currently. So, when murdering gets the punishment it deserves (removal of insurance for example) we 'Carebears' can live with that quite fine.
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