I'd be more worried about the "if done right" -part, so I concur.
Frontier. Please make a PVE mode to this game.
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Felucca is still there, but only PvPers bother going to it - which is what we need here.
Send the minority to the 'private group' instead of having Mobius overworked and looking for more group space from FDev.
I wouldn't want them to substitute a PvE Open over the current Open, I'd want an Open PvE as well as the current Open. Those who like the current open should absolutely keep it and use it without change.
H'm.
There are no PvP and PvE modes: just Open, Solo and Private Group.
Even in Solo the player can be seen to be playing against other players - Factions, CGs etc. - just not directly so on an individual basis.
I doubt FD can implement an 'open' PvE mode. I don't even now what this means or what it is supposed to achieve.
To stop players shooting at each other? Ramming each other?
I suppose the simplest way is to make each player immune to all other players actions regarding weapons fire and to remove collision effects.
But does that feel immersive or 'real'? Doesn't account for mistakes in flying for one thing like when docking for instance.
FD and us are stuck with current modes for the foreseeble future.
Only FD has the capabilty to know what the extent of the ganking/griefer problem is.
I'd like to know the stats indicating how many players are 'killed' by other players in a given time period, and by location, CGs etc.
And whether it's hurting their bottom line.
There are no PvP and PvE modes: just Open, Solo and Private Group.
Even in Solo the player can be seen to be playing against other players - Factions, CGs etc. - just not directly so on an individual basis.
I doubt FD can implement an 'open' PvE mode. I don't even now what this means or what it is supposed to achieve.
To stop players shooting at each other? Ramming each other?
I suppose the simplest way is to make each player immune to all other players actions regarding weapons fire and to remove collision effects.
But does that feel immersive or 'real'? Doesn't account for mistakes in flying for one thing like when docking for instance.
FD and us are stuck with current modes for the foreseeble future.
Only FD has the capabilty to know what the extent of the ganking/griefer problem is.
I'd like to know the stats indicating how many players are 'killed' by other players in a given time period, and by location, CGs etc.
And whether it's hurting their bottom line.
It's occurred to me that if everyone played in open there might be less griefing as suddenly all these part time OPEN players will have to get shields, get an escape plan and start flying with their eyes and ears open.
... this say only that some players want it. Imo the last thing, what this game really needs, is adding another mode.
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What is the most important difference between an Elite with a PvE mode provided by Mobius and a PvE mode by Frontier? An official PvE mode would be clearly visible on the Start screen.
Why to some people consider this to be a problem? These people fear that there are currently a lot of people playing in open who would prefer to play in a PvE mode and are currently unaware of the existance of Mobius. Now why would they consider that a problem?
Why to some people consider this to be a problem? These people fear that there are currently a lot of people playing in open who would prefer to play in a PvE mode and are currently unaware of the existance of Mobius. Now why would they consider that a problem?
Second that.
It is about time Frontier reacts and create the Open-PVE.
I am a PvP Player that changed to PvE only with the engineers. I can enjoy both however the System is so out of Balance for enjoable balanced PvP that I prefer to stick to PvE.
Face it the current open mode failed and nothing they do will change that. Karma Crime and Punishment all fine but it wont prevent People from hunting down other People just for the lol. Even more it will attract those that like to play bad boy. Hench even me see such more as a challange and motivation factor to play rough instead clean. If you can be the bad and have the whole universe against you and it really becomes challanmging.. well than that is an exciting playstyle.
But more than that nothign will help to resuce the open a lot would simple like to enjoy the Game without haveing to bother about Player versus Player pew pew. As exciting PvP can be it is also a very limiting experience and just an aspect of the game no one should be forced into.
Frontier forgets the first rule. The Game should make fun for the Players. We have PvP and PvE Players. So why not finnaly giving the ones that enjoy PvE their Game.
The Mobius Situation is no more a solution and it is really really at the time to act now.
Where do you want to go with this Game? Is it worth to alienate the PvE Player base. Reading about your combat logging warning emails is a joke if you consider the pols how many really care about combat logging. You acted to please a minority. Fine. How about acting to please a majority now?
It is about time Frontier reacts and create the Open-PVE.
I am a PvP Player that changed to PvE only with the engineers. I can enjoy both however the System is so out of Balance for enjoable balanced PvP that I prefer to stick to PvE.
Face it the current open mode failed and nothing they do will change that. Karma Crime and Punishment all fine but it wont prevent People from hunting down other People just for the lol. Even more it will attract those that like to play bad boy. Hench even me see such more as a challange and motivation factor to play rough instead clean. If you can be the bad and have the whole universe against you and it really becomes challanmging.. well than that is an exciting playstyle.
But more than that nothign will help to resuce the open a lot would simple like to enjoy the Game without haveing to bother about Player versus Player pew pew. As exciting PvP can be it is also a very limiting experience and just an aspect of the game no one should be forced into.
Frontier forgets the first rule. The Game should make fun for the Players. We have PvP and PvE Players. So why not finnaly giving the ones that enjoy PvE their Game.
The Mobius Situation is no more a solution and it is really really at the time to act now.
Where do you want to go with this Game? Is it worth to alienate the PvE Player base. Reading about your combat logging warning emails is a joke if you consider the pols how many really care about combat logging. You acted to please a minority. Fine. How about acting to please a majority now?
Better idea: Let's give PVP players something to actually do. We need a war where people can sign up for active military service and fight for control of objectives. If you're in active service you are free game for military personnel from opposing powers.
Having something to fight over / campains will cause PVP players to aggregate in the areas of contention and give them tooled up opponents to fight instead of 'seal clubbing'.
Having something to fight over / campains will cause PVP players to aggregate in the areas of contention and give them tooled up opponents to fight instead of 'seal clubbing'.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
No links then?
There are already (at least) two large PvE Private Groups (I believe that one of those two has hit the 20,000 player limit, again) - what is being sought is an Open-PvE mode that enjoys the same "advertising" on the main mode selection screen as Open already does.
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This is not going to stop the griefing. There are and there still will be some kids/idiots/pk´ers in the game that kill others for fun. And that´s why open is not as popular as it should be. And because open is not popular, the coop part of the game slightly fades out. And that´s my biggest concern.
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An official PvE mode available from the start menu would not “break the game” any more than Mobius existing has broken it, and you full well know it Gluttony. You’re just fearmongering there in an attempt to bolster your position on the matter. It only breaks immersion for the PvP enthusiasts who wouldn’t use such a mode anyway. The private group system was never intended to serve such a huge number of players like Mobius currently has, that wasn’t it’s intent. For a very large percentage of the playerbase an official PvE mode would be the single best feature added to the game since 1.0.
Ideally though we would actually get BOTH an official PvE mode (to replace Mobius) AND a C&P system implemented into Open (to make it far more appealing to players). Mobius is breaking the PG system, it’s about to split yet again, so an actual PvE mode would be a great feature from Frontier for the people who obviously want it badly. In addition though, an Open with C&P would be a much more healthy, fun, and engaging Open, and it would most likely draw many players out of Mobius and back into Open. There is no reason why the Open+C&P and PvE mode can’t coexist, none at all.
Because it's missing the "open" part... y'know, the bit where you get to pve WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
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To have some meaningful interaction with other players, duh.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
To offer PvE players a game mode with an unlimited population (and no direct PvP, of course)....
verminstar
Banned
Would seriously love to see an open pve mode, but doubt I will see it and its getting harder to still care about this game because its no longer my primary go to game...just play now and then to chill out with. Solo makes one anti social and I am not anti social by nature...I need human interaction and this game does not provide that in a meaningful or fun way.
Not gonna write an essay...this topic has been done to death a hundred and one times already. Open pve would be a reason to play again, otherwise its just a single player game with a forum...single player games dont usually last more than a couple months...just sayin...
Not gonna write an essay...this topic has been done to death a hundred and one times already. Open pve would be a reason to play again, otherwise its just a single player game with a forum...single player games dont usually last more than a couple months...just sayin...
What 40,000+ players want is a co-operative alternative to the current Open mode. An official unlimited member “Mobius Mode” available from the start menu. Think of it like this, at the main menu you would see these options:
- Open PvP (player on player aggression allowed)
- Open PvE (no player on player aggression possible, enforced by the game itself)
- Private Group
- Solo
Is that more clear to you now?