Frontiers Financial Report is Out šŸ‘€

I donā€™t know why optimism gets confused so much for pure cope. I can be optimistic and acknowledge that support may end anytime. Weā€™re mostly adults here.
Depends. I hope support will continue for a long time, like everyone.

But some people actually set expectations on support lasting forever, and as we've seen time and again, this community becomes quite toxic whenever the imagined expectations don't come to fruition.

So I think some realistic analysis and discussion us required to temper the "support will last forever and we'll get all the aviary birds" crowd.
 
sure itā€™s speculation, but itā€™s not ā€œjustā€ speculation - itā€™s opinions based on evidence. Like it or not, the game will end at some point - probably before it becomes unprofitableā€¦ itā€™ll be when Frontier has a reasonable belief that projected profits from the resources devoted to PZ are likely to be lower than the profits that are likely to be made by those resources being devoted to something else (or general cost-cutting)ā€¦ Many factors, most of which we canā€™t see, will go into this analysis: the trend of sales, potential new content (and how much it costs to develop) and projections of expected profits from something else (especially if, like a new ā€˜planetā€™ game, many of the same team of designers etc. are likely to be used for to maintain a consistent brand style)ā€¦
It was ā€œdoomspeakingā€ when people predicted the end of the game in 2020 based on fewer packs than PC got bring released (especially in the context of COVID) but, at some point, the probability of the gameā€™s support finishing rises to the point where itā€™s very reasonable to think itā€™s possible,ā€¦ at some point it will be probable - where each of those points is is of course speculation, but itā€™s no longer unreasonable to think itā€™s possibly or even probably approaching.
This is very well articulated. Effectively, Planet Zoo is profitable and it will continue to be profitable if they end support. They've seen that trend with PlanCo and acknowledged it as part of their strategy in this year's presentation. If they can add PZ to that roster of "games that we just let sit on the shelf and sell" and then release a new game that will give them a big bump in revenue... That could potentially be really helpful to their bottom line. Still making $X and $Y from PZ and PlanCo... While making three times that (and in addition to that) with a new game. It's a good point.

And there's a counter to it (like everything in these conversations). The game is still selling really well and you can see that bump quite strongly on the day of a DLC release. Each game unit sold is another potential PDLC customer for all the packs in their library. One seems to beget the other when you look at the sales (e.g., day of Oceania pack release both base game and the DLC were in the top 10 on Steam). And by pushing that a little further (even just another year of support) you'd be broadening your player base (as well as getting people "bought in" on Frontier for the next game to come) and potential for profits down the line. Each PDLC released is another bit of content any new players in years to come will likely want to purchase at some point or another. And I just keep thinking about the "ROI comment"...

This is all to say that I agree with you. There's a lot of different factors and ways of looking at this. And, as folks with no inside knowledge, it's all pure speculation that can go in any number of directions - both positive and negative.

But regardless of where we all stand on those things... I think we can all agree that we'd all really want for the game to receive support for months, if not years, to come! And that there's still a lot of untapped potential for the animal roster, scenery/themes, and features that could be added!

Now if you want to "prepare for the worst" and "keep your expectations low" sure you are free to do that, but trying to convince others of it is just tiresome and annoying specially when it is all based on speculation, so many people constantly trying to excuse this theory by shielding themselves on "being realistic" when as much as you may think it is realistic to go for a pessimistic take it doesn't stop being a theory.
Facts. There's absolutely no harm in "wishing" for something. And verbalizing that, frankly, is just another way of letting the developers know "hey, we're still here, we still care, and we want to support the game in any way possible."

Some people think optimism = stupidity or being unrealistic and being pessimistic = being edgy and intelligent. Whatever floats your boat I guess.

It's a zoo game with virtual animals. It's not exactly high stakes. I enjoy speculating about all the thing this game could include in a perfect world while acknowledging that might not happen. If a few players enjoy talking about how what other people like is invalid and how not wanting to constantly reiterate that the game will end one day (yes, we know)... I guess we all get our stress relief in different ways.
More than that, I think talking about what we want the game to be only adds to the odds that supporting the game might continue. One of the things referenced in the financial presentation is that the "players demand" the paid DLC packs and that there is a strong ROI from them. More chatter about the DLCs, what people want out of the game, and so on is just an expression of love and support for the game. And being able to say that X people are talking about that sort of thing on a daily basis certainly wouldn't hurt our case for more content!

And besides, what's the worst that could happen? Support ends and Frontier just has a whole dearth of information they can use to inform how to create a sequel down the line. :ROFLMAO:
 
I do hope that when pz support does end we at least get something similar to the thememakers toolkit to make our own props and effects before it does.

It's hard to determine how long there is left, but getting dlc's for as long as we have is amazing.
 
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Oh gosh. It makes me sad when there's arguing in this community, although it seems to have all been mutually respectful and articulate, which is unusual and beautiful among online communities.

We're all animal nerds.
We all want PZ to go on forever.
We all know it won't.
We're all intelligent and have valid opinions.

Debate is healthy, but this one seemed a little pointless. Let's all love each other, okay?

Sorry this was a pointless post, my hippie heart just died a little šŸ˜‚ Peace pipe anyone? šŸ„³

I keep refreshing the annual reports page to see if the full report bequeaths us any more hope nuggets. Should be any day now.
 
I do hope that when pz support does end we at least get something similar to the thememakers toolkit to make our own props and effects before it does.

It's hard to determine how long there is left, but getting dlc's for as long as we have is amazing.
Yeah, the TMTK for PZ would be very useful, I really hope we can get it. And if they release it, it's a good sign of support nearing its end. With PC they released exactly when starting the last year of DLCs. I guess that people making their own game assets improves the base game but worsens the appeal of DLC assets.
(Although we already know that PZ is not following 100% the path of PC)
 
SOOOoooo, the strategic report has been published. Unfortunately it doesn't reveal any more than we already know:

"Jurassic World Evolution 2 and
Planet Zoo performed especially well, each supported by four new PDLC packs releasing in FY23, alongside free content. In FY24 new PDLC packs and free content for both Jurassic World Evolution 2 and Planet Zoo have already been released, with more planned during this financial year."

However it does also say:
"The future for Planet Zoo is bright with its ever-growing community of players supported by our strategy of free and paid content."

So, the future looks bright for Frontier, but to us it's pretty opaque! Nothing concrete to be gleaned from this sadly but very positive that PZ is one of their top two performers and that their strategy is to nurture their creative sim games.

Link:
 
SOOOoooo, the strategic report has been published. Unfortunately it doesn't reveal any more than we already know:

"Jurassic World Evolution 2 and
Planet Zoo performed especially well, each supported by four new PDLC packs releasing in FY23, alongside free content. In FY24 new PDLC packs and free content for both Jurassic World Evolution 2 and Planet Zoo have already been released, with more planned during this financial year."

However it does also say:
"The future for Planet Zoo is bright with its ever-growing community of players supported by our strategy of free and paid content."

So, the future looks bright for Frontier, but to us it's pretty opaque! Nothing concrete to be gleaned from this sadly but very positive that PZ is one of their top two performers and that their strategy is to nurture their creative sim games.

Link:
I find this extremely good news. No confirmation of anything of course, but the idea of a whole one extra year of support does not look too far-fetched right now.
 
SOOOoooo, the strategic report has been published. Unfortunately it doesn't reveal any more than we already know:

"Jurassic World Evolution 2 and
Planet Zoo performed especially well, each supported by four new PDLC packs releasing in FY23, alongside free content. In FY24 new PDLC packs and free content for both Jurassic World Evolution 2 and Planet Zoo have already been released, with more planned during this financial year."

However it does also say:
"The future for Planet Zoo is bright with its ever-growing community of players supported by our strategy of free and paid content."

So, the future looks bright for Frontier, but to us it's pretty opaque! Nothing concrete to be gleaned from this sadly but very positive that PZ is one of their top two performers and that their strategy is to nurture their creative sim games.

Link:
This at least allows to calm down the people which are already worried about a December DLC because of the vanished Content Folders 16 šŸ˜ƒ
 
This at least allows to calm down the people which are already worried about a December DLC because of the vanished Content Folders 16 šŸ˜ƒ
I choose to believe in at least a full FY2024 of DLCs. So two more at the very least. But i also choose to believe we'll get content up to the fifth anniversary.

December also seems like a good time to release a larger expansion (even if it is the last pack). I'm talking here of Dec 2024.
 
I honestly see nothing new here. Even them saying the future is "bright" for Planet Zoo, I can't help but think back to the financial presentation where they spent most of the PZ-focused conversation speaking about how passionate and creative the players are... And how that's what can drive sales. The mention of content creators, workshop creations, and mods was all there emphasizing that they wanted players who "prosthelytize."

I took it all to mean: "Even if we stop support and creating PDLC? The player base will grow and we'll sell more units, anyway because the people who love the game love the game." It just kinda felt like a set-up to put it on the shelf sometime in the very near future, TBH.

On the flipside, it could also make a lot of sense to put a full focus on newer games in these reports because those are what will really drive sales in a big way. (And if they're ending support for JWE2 it might look odd to highlight just PZ. Lots of different things can account for this! So I don't mean this to sound as negative as it did at the start. Haha.)

So I'm kind of right where I was before, TBH. Thinking we have at least two more packs/updates with hope and potential for more. I just think the way they've chosen to present it all is very strange (and there's lots of reasons that could be).
 
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In FY24 new PDLC packs and free content
for both Jurassic World Evolution 2 and Planet Zoo have already been released, with more planned during this financial year.

This is a good line to see.
 
I am aware :) fy ends on 1 July.
I thought it was may? hmmm...
SOOOoooo, the strategic report has been published. Unfortunately it doesn't reveal any more than we already know:

"Jurassic World Evolution 2 and
Planet Zoo performed especially well, each supported by four new PDLC packs releasing in FY23, alongside free content. In FY24 new PDLC packs and free content for both Jurassic World Evolution 2 and Planet Zoo have already been released, with more planned during this financial year."

However it does also say:
"The future for Planet Zoo is bright with its ever-growing community of players supported by our strategy of free and paid content."

So, the future looks bright for Frontier, but to us it's pretty opaque! Nothing concrete to be gleaned from this sadly but very positive that PZ is one of their top two performers and that their strategy is to nurture their creative sim games.

Link:
Yeah they constantly highlight in the report the importance planet zoo has right now, which isn't surprising considering how well it keeps performing, but as usual they are ambiguous about what exactly this future is gonna be in terms of the content they are planning for the game, hopefully aquatics, birds, petting mechanics or some interesting feature updates and not just our regular dlcs.
 
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